I don't think this is necessary or appropriate. I use Sublime Text 2, and we don't put anything about that in footer. Nor do we do anything for others.

That being said, I completely agree with recognizing them and making sure they receive recognition for their donation of their product. There were some other suggestions in the mailing list that would work well I believe. We should explore one of those options for recognition and appreciation.

I didn't mean for that to sound too harsh. I apologize. Perhaps changing the wording to not say "Powered by" would make this ok. I know we want to recognize them somewhere.

@dbhurley :) I am not against BTW.

Well, since english is not my primary language, there may be different understandings of "Power"... I'm sure we find something we all could agree on

Yep, exactly my thoughts.

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Is there any precent of recognizing support for the project like this?

I would certainly like to see their contribution recognized appropriately.

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Yep, exactly my thoughts.

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Nikolai,

Thanks for bringing this up. This is an important thing to do.

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Is there any precent of recognizing support for the project like this?

I would certainly like to see their contribution recognized appropriately.

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Yep, exactly my thoughts.

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From my personal point of view this is not so much about giving something back. In fact I am using my own (paid) license, even for my community contributions.

It's just to say:
PHPStorm is a great piece of software and we are using it extensively during the development of the JTracker Application.
aka "Powered by" - please find some appropriate (short) wording ;)

Edit: I have included this text in my original proposal to make it clearer.

I totally agree with the initiative, but the "Powered by" is grating on me. If we can find a way to say "We just want to thank these people for what they've given to Joomla" succinctly, I'm all for it :)

I completely agree, and have also purchased my own license :-)

I am wondering if this extends beyond JIssues and to the project as a
whole? I personally have absolutely no problem with this, and recall that
others don't, but am also just recalling a previous thread about this on
list.

I'll see if I can dig that thread up.

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From my personal point of view this is not so much about giving something
back. In fact I am using my own (paid) license, even for my community
contributions.

It's just to say:
PHPStorm is a great piece of software and we are using it extensively
during the development of the JTracker Application.
aka "Powered by" - please find some appropriate (short) wording ;)

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I agree but there's bugger all chance of me buying my own license

I agree but there's bugger all chance of me buying my own license

You don't have to if you are only using it for project work. If you are using it for code from which you derive an income, you are required to buy your own license, and rightly so.

I know - that's why I haven't bought it ;)

And that's perfectly ok. I didn't mean to sound like you weren't using it properly, sorry.

I started using it for Joomla and I also end up buying my license. PhpStorm rocks!

Please take my comment for what it's worth (not a lot), but I really dislike any advertising in the footer of every single page. It puts a target on the back of the contributor (Why is XYZ recognized and so and so is not?) Furthermore, there is no open and transparent process for community to provide feedback on these decisions.

It can sometimes be better to acknowledge the gift using a community blog post about the benefits the gift provides the community and the communities appreciation of the gift. That way, those sharing are recognized and valued, those reading who have something to share are encouraged to do so, and the same reward can be consistently applied as frequently, as needed.

Again, not suggesting my thinking on this is "right" since there is no right way to do it, just food for thought.

Furthermore, there is no open and transparent process for community to provide feedback on these decisions.

Just an observation but this PR is an open and transparent process for the community to provide feedback on this proposal :) The point being made though is has the donation from JetBrains made a difference to building this application. If so, then why not acknowledge it. It's paying it forward.

I wouldn't be opposed to some sort of credits page, or finding a way to slip PhpStorm onto the Dependencies doc. But there is some validity in the argument about the footer link IMO.

I was thinking the same @mbabker

Maybe park it until we get time to do the gamification, and we can give
JetBrains a special badge along with other people that have helped make the
application a success?

At one point in our history they would have been listed here http://www.joomla.org/about-joomla/the-project/partners.html
You may blame the J!Tracker Application for transmitting this comment.

I think a 'supported by / thanks to / whatever' page is better than having things like this in every page footer.
It is more flexible, and easier to add more if necessary (Rochen for example) while still giving credit where it's due.
It also allows for more than a 1 line link, there can be a mini-article explaining what they have provided and who to contact for more information.
You can add features, such as the gamification badge(s), to it later.

Well, a footer link is kind of expensive I guess... Rochen should at least provide free hosting for all the Joomla! "Core" sites.. and more.

@mbabker's suggestion to include it in the dependencies page made me at first, but seems to be a good option to "solve" this. Not really sure if "Depends on" is better than "Powered by" - anyway.. under "Installed version" we would display then the version that every dev has installed - I use the http://confluence.jetbrains.com/display/PhpStorm/PhpStorm+Early+Access+Program btw

Just to avoid confusion... this has not been merged, I tried to modify my original proposal, but GitHub was too intelligent.. so ⇒ #223