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avatar rjharishabh
rjharishabh
12 May 2021

Pull Request for Issue #33813.

Summary of Changes

remove row and column width to remove extra column

Testing Instructions

Dashboard > Components > Banners > Client > Edit any client or create using New > Go to Metadata tab
Apply PR
and see the difference

Actual result BEFORE applying this Pull Request

banners-new-client-before

Expected result AFTER applying this Pull Request

banners-new-client-after

Documentation Changes Required

No

avatar rjharishabh rjharishabh - open - 12 May 2021
avatar rjharishabh rjharishabh - change - 12 May 2021
Status New Pending
avatar joomla-cms-bot joomla-cms-bot - change - 12 May 2021
Category Administration com_banners
avatar sandramay0905 sandramay0905 - test_item - 12 May 2021 - Tested successfully
avatar sandramay0905
sandramay0905 - comment - 12 May 2021

I have tested this item successfully on 4f2c856


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avatar sandewt
sandewt - comment - 12 May 2021

I wonder if this change is desirable. Who is in charge of the (final) design of joomla?

avatar rjharishabh
rjharishabh - comment - 12 May 2021

I wonder if this change is desirable. Who is in charge of the (final) design of joomla?

See #33800 and #33806

avatar rjharishabh
rjharishabh - comment - 12 May 2021

Maybe there will be some reason to design like this.

avatar sandewt
sandewt - comment - 12 May 2021

Maybe there will be some reason to design like this.

I asked myself that question too.

avatar PhilETaylor
PhilETaylor - comment - 12 May 2021

Have you tested on small screen sizes/devices?

avatar rjharishabh
rjharishabh - comment - 12 May 2021

Have you tested on small screen sizes/devices?

Yes
banners-small

avatar Kostelano Kostelano - test_item - 14 May 2021 - Tested successfully
avatar Kostelano
Kostelano - comment - 14 May 2021

I have tested this item successfully on 4f2c856

Oh, I missed the point of testing. It works. Thank you.


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avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 14 May 2021

@C-Lodder What's the reason for the thumbs down?

avatar C-Lodder
C-Lodder - comment - 14 May 2021

Because whitespace doesnt need to be filled for the sake of it. Form fields shouldn't be nearly 100% of the viewport.

avatar rjharishabh
rjharishabh - comment - 15 May 2021

@brianteeman should I revert this or change the width.
PR for similar issue #33806

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 15 May 2021

Because whitespace doesnt need to be filled for the sake of it. Form fields shouldn't be nearly 100% of the viewport.

@C-Lodder Thanks for explaining, and I think you are right.

But people opened issue about that and PR's were made and tested with success, so I have set the one or other RTC without having an own, deeper look into it, and without knowing if it was a design decision or not.

Am happy if you or @brianteeman can step in and point me (and maybe others, too) to the right direction.

Regarding the white space, maybe we should tell those who opened the issues how to make overrides which show nice cat pictures at that place (or puppies if they prefer that).

avatar Kostelano
Kostelano - comment - 15 May 2021

@richard67 You are very nice to your coworkers and NOT very nice (or NOT very witty) to other (less familiar) users. Stop this unless you intend to write your own documentation page for posting pictures of cats and dogs.

The request for the problem was submitted by analogy with the other, which was corrected and accepted.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 15 May 2021

Humour is often lost in translation

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 15 May 2021

Sorry .. I did not want to offend anybody.

avatar C-Lodder
C-Lodder - comment - 15 May 2021

@richard67 Personally, I'd leave the current width as it is. Form field widths should be set to that of the expected content length, or ideally no longer than 80-100 characters per row.

I'm not a UX expert, but have done lots of research on this in the past, so hopefully it's applicable here.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 15 May 2021

@C-Lodder I agree 100% - that is exactly what the Nielson group say as well

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 15 May 2021

@brianteeman @C-Lodder Do you think we should not only reject this PR here but also revert #33806 for being consistent again?

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 15 May 2021

thats a maintainer decision but I would - also see #32874

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 15 May 2021

Ahh ... maybe I got confused somehow ... PR #33806 was created by @C-Lodder so that might be ok, or not?

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 15 May 2021

it was created by @ciar4n

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 15 May 2021

it was created by @ciar4n

Ahh .. I need glasses.

avatar Fedik
Fedik - comment - 15 May 2021

I see someone is against of a pictures of a cats.

About the issue. I agree with @C-Lodder.
To me it looks nicer when the fields is compact. They does not contain a lot of content, does not need to make them huge.
And 100% width on large screen looks bad.
I would not merge it.

UPD: the same about #33806
On large screen User is forced to move eyes from left edge to right edge.
This actually the same why newspaper does not print the text in 100% width, but split in to columns, this is more easy to eyes.

avatar rjharishabh rjharishabh - change - 16 May 2021
Status Pending Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2021-05-16 10:56:16
Closed_By rjharishabh
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avatar rjharishabh rjharishabh - close - 16 May 2021

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