Customising the current Joomla admin template to specific use case scenarios is a little hard now. If we have a blank, easy to customise template with plenty of module positions it will add a lot of flexibility to decide how to present the backend.
We plan to do this anyways for some client work, our plan is to submit a PR for the same by first creating a general use blank template and then proceeding with our client specific stuff. Any ideas, suggestions around this would be great to help us make it more powerful and suitable for many use cases. Any collaboration on this is of course welcome :)
Easy to white label - Custom Logo Upload , Custom FavIcon,
Bootstrap 3 support and overrides for core extensions (can later be merged as default layouts)
< These will need to be separate RFCs ideally>
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I suggest you speak to the UI/UX team as they are working on something
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I would like it if the template was WCAG https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/ compatible. I think this would be a HUGE coup for the Joomla! project. I was considering trying to do this myself.
Hi everyone, I’m from the JUX team and I was directed to this conversation by many people today. We are just beginning the process of conceptualizing a new admin template. We would like create something that provides better UX as soon as version 3.6 and we want it to transition towards J4 concepts at the same time. Maintaining backward compatibility in 3.x releases is mandatory, and the J4 architecture will be more flexible, but our goal is to make admin improvements sooner than later because we know this is the number one concern in the community. We hear you, and we want to make it better for everyone.
We are just getting started and we want to see any ideas or concepts the community has. We’ll also be gathering community feedback in the very near future. If you’re interested in contributing to the JUX and assisting in this process, please fill out the JUX Team Application or send me a message. I’m happy to answer questions and provide more information, thanks for being involved. http://goo.gl/forms/CrUfP5Gtb0
Hi everyone,would this functionality be intergrateed into previous versions as well.It is a very cool idea and im interested in it
Thanks for the feedback so far !
@parthlawate I have to say good luck with this! I was trying to modernise (b/c) the isis for couple years now but too many people objected:
2014: #4280
2015: #7610
By the way bootstrap 3 CAN NOT be done in 3.x!
As I said before good luck...
@dgt41 thanks for the inputs ! would be cool if you can help with this. I need this for a few projects so going to build it anyways. Just an attempt to see if we can get this in the core as an option. Current template can stay. not trying to replace that. This is as the title says "Simple, Flexible Blank Admin template" that can be easily tweaked for various use cases.
Our company sustainable open source policy needs that in every project we do we have to find a way of contributing to opensource. If it gets in it will be good for everyone. We are going to code it anyways so might as well do it in a way that considers most use cases and needs.
Thanks for the inputs on 2014: #4280 , 2015: #7610 - We'll try and consider comments in them.
Regarding BS3 -- that is a good to have. and can be made available as a configurable option. On the luck part thanks :) We are going to need it !
@parthlawate thanks for the offer, I'm happy to help if I can. I'm more of a front end coder than back end but I am quite well versed in what you should and shouldn't do to make a site accessible as I have created sites for disability charities in the past. I don't have heaps of time but I'm happy to be involved in the dialogue and pitch in when I can. Most CMS's don't fulfil this requirement it would be a really big leap for Joomla! and something that the marketing team could really promote well.
@parthlawate - I'm happy to coordinate this, we're already coordinating with the 3.6 release team and obviously we're on the same page as marketing :)
As I mentioned, any 3.x release needs to maintain backwards compatibility. Changing the core bootstrap implementation is not an option until J4, which will be much more flexible and will hopefully move us past this issue once and for all. For now, it's a big challenge we have to work around.
Again, if anyone wants to help please contact me. The JUX is actively seeking contributors for this specific project.
As a part of this new template, I'd love to see you add nested items to the list view in the menu manager. I created a mock up a few years back, but I have no idea if it's ever worked its way into the proper chains to get implemented. Here are the rough mock ups:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B21e4EKivj0gTm9FdVI4aUF2UEE/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B21e4EKivj0gUDNQN1AwM0Y0eWs/view
Thanks Brian. Do you have files for this that you can send me privately? We've got a few other admin templates that have a similar approach and style to this and we're building a sandbox to review and test the codes to see what will work best.
It was just a mock up in Adobe fireworks showing the basic idea. Not sure you'd gain anything from having the source files. Sorry :(
It's all good, just curious :) It looks very similar to a custom admin template and some other ideas I've received so I'm getting the impression something along these lines could work. I'll let you know when I've got the sandbox up and you can check it out. Thanks again.
I posted the images at Parth's request, but I don't care WHO implements it. When you're dealing with a beefy mega menu, managing all those levels without being able to collapse it is really a pain. :)
We're just getting started with the 3.6 process, collecting ideas and figuring out what will be possible within the timeframe. Nothing has been decided yet as far as I know.
Status | New | ⇒ | Closed |
Closed_Date | 0000-00-00 00:00:00 | ⇒ | 2016-04-13 10:00:24 |
Closed_By | ⇒ | brianteeman |
Closed - no need for it to stay open if people are working on it. When you have something to show create a new PR
Closed - no need for it to stay open if people are working on it. When you have something to show create a new PR
Ok.. I thought RFC's were requests for comments where we can maintain it to keep getting feedback. We should have something to show in around a month. Will post updates then
@brianteeman Thanks Brian, I agree.
With the short timeline for 3.6, a new admin template will most likely be a 3.7 or beyond release, but we have already started the groundwork. We need all the help we can get, it's a massive undertaking to create an addition like this to a 3.x release. We do have a team in Glip for this specific project, anyone who wants to join or contribute can contact me directly for more information. Thanks to everyone for your comments and contributions so far.
@parthlawate - do you have a repository, or can you make one? We don't have much going on with this in glip and I'd prefer to have working projects on Github as much as possible.
This effort got put on hold for a number of reasons. It is on the development roadmap, which was recently updated, slated for v3.10 release. All the time lines are still tbd, but a new admin template listed is planned for a J3 release. Just fyi. https://docs.joomla.org/Joomla_CMS_Development_Roadmap
Will share the repo once we clean it up a little bit..
We did earlier provide a Mockup as part of a process to work towards a new and more user friendly (and usercentric) administrator template.
The Mockup is available at: http://backendtemp.mathilde.intern.redweb.dk/