Last time we tried that, it failed horrible as you couldn't go back to page one.

Why do you want to remove that?

@Bakual I apply this patch on our site and this worked fine, "?limitstart=0" in pagination from "Page 1", "Back" and "Start" page be removed, - try this http://www.remoteshaman.com/blog?start=20 - and this http://www.remoteshaman.com/unix/gentoo/kak-ya-gentoo-linux-na-vmware-stavil?start=3

Worked fine.

"?limitstart=0" make dublcate first page. For example http://www.remoteshaman.com/blog and http://www.remoteshaman.com/blog?limitstart=0 - why?

I think "?limitstart=0" must be removed for best SEO.

For SEO, it doesn't matter at all actually.
For pages using SmartSearch or other places where the current page is stored in user session it makes it impossible to go back to page one.
Did you test in backend as well?

@Bakual in backend worked fine. "?limitstart=0" any way not need on first page and must be removed.

@remotehelp Travis complains on codestyle and unit test issues see:

FILE: .../travis/build/joomla/joomla-cms/libraries/cms/pagination/pagination.php
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FOUND 16 ERROR(S) AFFECTING 14 LINE(S)
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 759 | ERROR | Expected "if (...)\n...{...}\n...else\n"; found "if
     |       | (...)\n...{...}\n...else "
 769 | ERROR | Expected "if (...)\n...{...}\n...else\n"; found "if
     |       | (...)\n...{...}\n...else "
 779 | ERROR | Expected "if (...)\n...{...}\n...else\n"; found "if
     |       | (...)\n...{...}\n...else "
 789 | ERROR | Expected "if (...)\n...{...}\n...else\n"; found "if(...)...{...}
     |       | ...else "
 790 | ERROR | Tabs must be used to indent lines; spaces are not allowed
 791 | ERROR | Tabs must be used to indent lines; spaces are not allowed
 791 | ERROR | Closing brace indented incorrectly; expected 3 spaces, found 17
 792 | ERROR | Tabs must be used to indent lines; spaces are not allowed
 793 | ERROR | Tabs must be used to indent lines; spaces are not allowed
 800 | ERROR | Expected "if (...)\n...{...}\n...else\n"; found "if
     |       | (...)\n...{...}\n...else "
 823 | ERROR | Expected "if (...)\n...{...}\n...else\n"; found "if (...)
     |       | ...{...} ...else "
 824 | ERROR | Tabs must be used to indent lines; spaces are not allowed
 825 | ERROR | Tabs must be used to indent lines; spaces are not allowed
 825 | ERROR | Closing brace indented incorrectly; expected 4 spaces, found 18
 826 | ERROR | Tabs must be used to indent lines; spaces are not allowed
 827 | ERROR | Tabs must be used to indent lines; spaces are not allowed
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and

There were 3 failures:
1) JPaginationTest::testGetData with data set #0 (100, 40, 20, 3, array(array('JLIB_HTML_VIEW_ALL', '0', 'index.php', '', ''), array('JLIB_HTML_START', '0', 'index.php?limitstart=0', '', ''), array('JPREV', '20', 'index.php?limitstart=20', '', ''), array('JNEXT', '60', 'index.php?limitstart=60', '', ''), array('JLIB_HTML_END', '80', 'index.php?limitstart=80', '', ''), array('3', '', null, '', true)))
This is not the expected start
Failed asserting that two arrays are equal.
--- Expected
+++ Actual
@@ @@
 Array (
     'text' => 'JLIB_HTML_START'
     'base' => '0'
-    'link' => 'index.php'
+    'link' => 'index.php?limitstart=0'
     'prefix' => ''
-    'active' => false
+    'active' => ''
 )
/home/travis/build/joomla/joomla-cms/tests/unit/suites/libraries/cms/pagination/JPaginationTest.php:341
2) JPaginationTest::testGetPagesLinks with data set #0 (100, 50, 20, '<ul><li class="pagination-sta...></ul>')
The expected output of the pagination is incorrect
Failed asserting that two strings are equal.
--- Expected
+++ Actual
@@ @@
-'<ul><li class="pagination-start"><a title="JLIB_HTML_START" href="index.php" class="hasTooltip pagenav">JLIB_HTML_START</a></li><li class="pagination-prev"><a title="JPREV" href="index.php?limitstart=20" class="hasTooltip pagenav">JPREV</a></li><li><a href="index.php" class="pagenav">1</a></li><li><a href="index.php?limitstart=20" class="pagenav">2</a></li><li><span class="pagenav">3</span></li><li><a href="index.php?limitstart=60" class="pagenav">4</a></li><li><a href="index.php?limitstart=80" class="pagenav">5</a></li><li class="pagination-next"><a title="JNEXT" href="index.php?limitstart=60" class="hasTooltip pagenav">JNEXT</a></li><li class="pagination-end"><a title="JLIB_HTML_END" href="index.php?limitstart=80" class="hasTooltip pagenav">JLIB_HTML_END</a></li></ul>'
+'<ul><li class="pagination-start"><a title="JLIB_HTML_START" href="index.php?limitstart=0" class="hasTooltip pagenav">JLIB_HTML_START</a></li><li class="pagination-prev"><a title="JPREV" href="index.php?limitstart=20" class="hasTooltip pagenav">JPREV</a></li><li><a href="index.php?limitstart=0" class="pagenav">1</a></li><li><a href="index.php?limitstart=20" class="pagenav">2</a></li><li><span class="pagenav">3</span></li><li><a href="index.php?limitstart=60" class="pagenav">4</a></li><li><a href="index.php?limitstart=80" class="pagenav">5</a></li><li class="pagination-next"><a title="JNEXT" href="index.php?limitstart=60" class="hasTooltip pagenav">JNEXT</a></li><li class="pagination-end"><a title="JLIB_HTML_END" href="index.php?limitstart=80" class="hasTooltip pagenav">JLIB_HTML_END</a></li></ul>'
/home/travis/build/joomla/joomla-cms/tests/unit/suites/libraries/cms/pagination/JPaginationTest.php:450
3) JPaginationTest::testBuildDataObject with data set #0 (100, 40, 20, 3, array(array('JLIB_HTML_VIEW_ALL', '0', 'index.php', '', ''), array('JLIB_HTML_START', '0', 'index.php?limitstart=0', '', ''), array('JPREV', '20', 'index.php?limitstart=20', '', ''), array('JNEXT', '60', 'index.php?limitstart=60', '', ''), array('JLIB_HTML_END', '80', 'index.php?limitstart=80', '', ''), array('3', '', null, '', true)))
This is not the expected start
Failed asserting that two arrays are equal.
--- Expected
+++ Actual
@@ @@
 Array (
     'text' => 'JLIB_HTML_START'
     'base' => '0'
-    'link' => 'index.php'
+    'link' => 'index.php?limitstart=0'
     'prefix' => ''
-    'active' => false
+    'active' => ''
 )
/home/travis/build/joomla/joomla-cms/tests/unit/suites/libraries/cms/pagination/JPaginationTest.php:779

https://travis-ci.org/joomla/joomla-cms/jobs/89386273

@zero-24
"PHPUnit 4.8.11" this not latest version!
see: https://github.com/sebastianbergmann/phpunit

"PHP_CODESNIFFER" maybe also not latest version!

"'active' => ''" instead "'active' => false" and "'link' => 'index.php?limitstart=0'" instead "'link' => 'index.php'" - this a poor recomendation

Now this is a travis problems, but not joomla cms where this patch worked fine.

@remotehelp this is a known problem if you whant to help to bring it up to date see: https://github.com/joomla/coding-standards Thanks.

For reference the last time we tried it:
PR #3725
Revert: #4488

Another PR which got closed: #4393

Thus I really doubtthis will work now :)

@Bakual PR #3725, Revert: #4488 and #4393 - this is bullshit :)

This #8280 really work now - checked up in practice!

Check for yourself.

Same issue as with #3725 which got reverted because it broke extensions.
The reason is that some extension store the currently visited page in the userstate.
Similar to what is done in backend where you can go to another menu item and come back and still are on the same article list page.
I don't think we use that behavior in core in frontend, but there are extensions which do. Removing that parameter means you can't go back to page 1 because if the parameter isn't present the code takes the value from the userstate instead.
In backend it still works imho because the pagination is stored in the form, and not as part of the URL.

Closing as this doesn't work.

@Bakual you stupid liar! Everything works fine, but if some extension not work with this, then this problem in that extension.

Mind enough to make shit-codes, but correct on already finished can not.

Bye stupid mainteiner's.