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muhme
2 Sep 2025

Steps to reproduce the issue

Install or update Joomla 5.4.0-beta2, enable Automated Updates and check 'Send Email to User Groups' field.

Expected result

Initial (after Joomla 5.4.0 new installation or update) all Super Users groups are shown. For a fresh installation for example the 'Super Users' group:

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Actual result

The 'Send Email to User Groups' is empty:

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System information (as much as possible)

Joomla 5.4.0-beta2

Additional comments

This is a follow-up to #45721

The groups are stored as automated_updates_email_groups array in ##__extension table, params field, where name = 'com_joomlaupdate'.

Even there is initial no group configured and shown, the behavier is identical: For all successful and failed Automated Updates an email is sent to the Super Users, see inline help:

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💡 It would be more inituitive if the Super Users groups are shown initially. And it would be the same look as with advanced scheduled tasks notifications:

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  • For new installations it is simple the, one and only, 'Super Users' group.
  • More complicated on update, where we have to check what are the Super Users group (Action = Super User = Allowed) are.

Test Cases Proposal

  • Default new Joomla installation -> 'Super Users' group is shown and members are getting emails
  • Joomla Update with default 'Super Users' group -> 'Super Users' group is shown and members are getting emails
    • Group is deletable -> No group is shown and Super Users are getting emails
    • Another group is configurable -> Memebers of this group members are getting emails
  • Joomla Update with three 'Super Users' group -> All 3 'Super Users' group are shown and members are getting emails
    • Another group can be added -> All 4 groups are shown and all members are getting emails
  • Joomla Update without a 'Super Users' group (if possible?) -> empty field
avatar muhme muhme - open - 2 Sep 2025
avatar joomla-cms-bot joomla-cms-bot - change - 2 Sep 2025
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bembelimen - comment - 2 Sep 2025

There is no fixed and guaranteed ID for a Super User. In my systems they are different + in the Maintainer Meeting we agreed to not set "8" as default for the obvious reasons.

avatar muhme
muhme - comment - 2 Sep 2025

There is no fixed and guaranteed ID for a Super User. In my systems they are different + in the Maintainer Meeting we agreed to not set "8" as default for the obvious reasons.

Yes, in my understanding, the first thing to do is to find out the Super Users group(s) with Global Permissions > Action Super User > Allowed set.

avatar HLeithner HLeithner - change - 2 Sep 2025
Status New Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2025-09-02 13:59:22
Closed_By HLeithner
avatar HLeithner HLeithner - close - 2 Sep 2025
avatar HLeithner
HLeithner - comment - 2 Sep 2025

The behavior is which we agreed on, use all super user groups per default, you can't do this if you set one on or update or install because groups can change over time. I'm closing this as not planned.

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