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modusworks
18 Apr 2025

Steps to reproduce the issue

Any category blog assigned to homepage menu item does not respond to disabling intro text. With intro text set to hide at article options tab (menu item) - intro text shows regardless.

Expected result

Intro text can be toggled off when a category blog is set as homepage.

Actual result

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brianteeman - comment - 18 Apr 2025

Are you sure you understand what the Hide Intro Text option does?

Hide intro text means that the intro text is NOT shown on the full article page. For example you have intro text that is a summary of an article and then the full article. With intro text set to hide then the summary is shown on the blog view and not shown on the full article view.

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modusworks - comment - 18 Apr 2025

We clearly understand what "hide intro text" does. It should also hide the intro text in blog / category view. When enabling "hide intro text" on any menu item other than homepage, the intro text is hidden in the blog layout (as it should). Its worked like this forever.

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brianteeman - comment - 18 Apr 2025

hide intro text has never hidden the intro text in a blog view

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modusworks - comment - 18 Apr 2025

hide intro text has never hidden the intro text in a blog view

Brian,

Okay, I see the issue. We are always using custom templates that are based on either Helix or T4. These frameworks come with some built-in overrides that have the behavior we are seeking (except Helix, when applied to homepage). I tested on the Cassiopeia template and you're right, hiding intro-text does not affect blog view.

That said, would it be a big lift to create an option? It would drastically improve flexibility for different types of article content and desired front-end layouts whereas in some cases intro-text is desired and others not - and would remove the need to create an entire template override to do so.

Thanks!

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brianteeman - comment - 18 Apr 2025

This is what template overrides are for

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modusworks - comment - 18 Apr 2025

This is what template overrides are for

I understand that. But it would be nice if something like this didn't require creating and maintaining an entire override for sake of removing intro-text - is my point.

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brianteeman - comment - 18 Apr 2025

so instead of you maintaining an override you want someone else to do it for you.

by all means submit a pull request to add this functionality and then the maintainers can make a decision. remember that if it was to go into core it would have to be a different new option to the existing display intro text option otherwise you will be breaking core functionality for everyone else.

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modusworks - comment - 18 Apr 2025

That's a snarky response, Brian. Who do you think you are speaking to? Considering the two largest template developers have including this override, it points to the fact that it's needed by many. And when there are commonly recurring things that many are opting for - which increases the flexibility of the platform, then yes the core team should consider it. It's not about offloading work, it's about streamlining the tool set. And yes, to be included into the core, it would have to be a new option like "Category Intro Text On/Off." Thanks for stating the obvious.

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brianteeman - comment - 18 Apr 2025

obvious to you perhaps but considering the quality of contributions recently certainly not obvious to all.

as i said - pull requests are welcome and then the maintainers can decide if its something they want to include. thankfully thats nothing to do with me

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chmst - comment - 28 Apr 2025

The concept of Joomla is showing the introtext in blog layout.
It is very easy to make a template overide for that - overrides are one of the most useful features and make Joomla flexible, much better that adding more and more params.
But I label it as feature. If we have a PR, release managers can decide.

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