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ReLater
18 Aug 2022

Steps to reproduce the issue

  • Go to "Joomla update" in a Joomla with current version. Or dev versions (doesn't work at the moment with Joomla 4.2-dev).
  • Click "Check for update".

Compare Joomla 3 with Joomla 4

Joomla 3

  • tells you which file will be installed.
  • Installation starts with click on "Reinstall"

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Joomla 4

  • tells you nothing. Sends you to URLs that tell you nothing helpful.
  • When you are on dev update channels: Link "Additional informations" leads to https://developer.joomla.org/nightly-builds.html
    • Complete nonsense during an update procedure. Tells you nothing specific.
  • Installation starts immediately with click on "Reinstall" without any helpful additional informations.

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Additional comments

  • This behavior is extremely annoying. At least when you are on dev channels.
  • And also on stable releases. User should always know what ZIP will be used. Normally one uses this feature when you have issues with Joomla. In these situations it can be eytremely helpful if an update failed somehow, which version will be reinstalled.
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zero-24 - comment - 18 Aug 2022

I agree. The info URL goes to the nighly page as that is the only place where infos are available. But I agree that it would make sense to show some more details on reinstall maybe the version number is a first step when the decision has been taken to take the URL off.

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avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 20 Aug 2022

when the decision has been taken to take the URL off.

@zero-24 Has such a decision been made or is it planned? What speaks against showing the download URL?

avatar zero-24
zero-24 - comment - 20 Aug 2022

Well looks like a decision has been made as it was showed within 3.x but I dont know whether it was a that definitiv decision maybe just a style opinion while that page was redesigned.

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 20 Aug 2022

I also don’t remember if it was a style thing or for another reason. So we are 2 in the club ;-)

avatar ReLater
ReLater - comment - 20 Aug 2022

3! ;-)

I only remember criticising that at the time when the huge icons came up ;-) (Background then: I always have to scroll down before I see the process bar, infos, buttons, whatever.)

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ReLater - comment - 20 Aug 2022

After short investigations:
All informations are available in file/view administrator\components\com_joomlaupdate\tmpl\joomlaupdate\reinstall.php

in array $this->updateInfo

$this->updateInfo['object']->get('downloadurl')->_data

=> https://developer.joomla.org/nightlies/Joomla_4.3.0-dev-Development-Update_Package.zip
$this->updateInfo['object']->get('name')->_data

=> Joomla! 4.3 Nightly Build

$this->updateInfo['object']->get('version')->_data

and others.

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 20 Aug 2022

I know. Question is just if we want to show it and if yes, do it in a nice way.

avatar ReLater ReLater - change - 20 Aug 2022
Status New Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2022-08-20 12:04:21
Closed_By ReLater
avatar ReLater ReLater - close - 20 Aug 2022
avatar ReLater
ReLater - comment - 20 Aug 2022

Thanks for spending time with it. I am not an aesthetician. I will use 2 overrides, installable via a file extension in atumn folder; with an additional $displayData['additionalInfos']. Thus I get also rid of all the noise and scroll actions that these emptystate pages produce.

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