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BPBlueprint
4 Feb 2022

When I use the Custom Field Type Media (media) there are three fields/formfields

  1. image
  2. Image Description (Alt Text)
  3. No Description [Checkbox]

For sure Field 1 (image) is the one we always need.
But fields 2 (Image Description) and field 3 (No Description) are sometimes really disturbing, cause they take alot of space at the screen.

Especially when you use a Media CustomField at a subform.
In my yes this is quite user-unfriendly.

Maybe it is possible to have kinda dropdown-box at the custom field, where you can configure "Show Image Description YES/NO" and "Show No Description YES/NO"

@laoneo

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brianteeman - comment - 4 Feb 2022

No - they are extremely important fields and you always need them all

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BPBlueprint - comment - 4 Feb 2022

Well, I donot agree ... or I ask like this: WHY are those alyways needed?
If you see in my screenshots J3 vs J4 -> it is hard to explain to people, why they now have such really user-unfriendly forms to fill, when it was much easier bevor
j3_having_alt-text_with_customfield-text
j4_takes_soooooo_much_space_and_is_really_userunfriendly
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avatar ReLater
ReLater - comment - 4 Feb 2022

That is one aspect of accessibility (a11y). An ALT text equals not always the visible description of images, e.g. in a <figcaption>. It can, but it doesn't have to.

I agree that the checkbox is useless overhead for most users. If the ALT attribute (= the ALT field) is empty than it has the same meaning as "just a decorative image". Why do we have to confirm that?

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brianteeman - comment - 4 Feb 2022

I agree that the checkbox is useless overhead for most users. If the ALT attribute (= the ALT field) is empty than it has the same meaning as "just a decorative image". Why do we have to confirm that?

  1. Because it should be a conscious decision to mark an image as only a decorative image.
  2. An image marked as decorative will have an alt of "". This means that you wont be "bothered" by an accessibility error.
avatar BPBlueprint
BPBlueprint - comment - 7 Feb 2022

But I think you agree, that using the way it is, is much more user-unfriendly than it could be (screenshots)?!
So maybe we need a solution for making it user-friendly to fill out the forms. Especially when you use a media-field withing a subform.


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BPBlueprint - comment - 7 Feb 2022
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brianteeman - comment - 15 Apr 2022

For me this is the eexpected behaviour and should be closed.

avatar BPBlueprint
BPBlueprint - comment - 4 Nov 2022

3rd-Party Extension DPMedia now has an option to remove Accessebility Options :-)
https://extensions.joomla.org/extension/dpmedia/


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BPBlueprint - comment - 4 Nov 2022

CAN BE CLOSED


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avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 4 Nov 2022

My 2c is that if any extension deliberately removes core accessibility functionality it should be removed from the JED

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