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avatar chmst
chmst
22 Sep 2021

Pull Request for Issue # .

Summary of Changes

Text in paragraphs is hard to read if it is centered. This PR aligns textin emptystate layout for better reading.

Compare empty page screens screens before and after applying the patch.

Example here: administrator/index.php?option=com_installer&view=discover

text-before-after

### Documentation Changes Required
avatar chmst chmst - open - 22 Sep 2021
avatar chmst chmst - change - 22 Sep 2021
Status New Pending
avatar joomla-cms-bot joomla-cms-bot - change - 22 Sep 2021
Category Layout
avatar PhilETaylor
PhilETaylor - comment - 22 Sep 2021

Empty State Design is NOT the place to be putting paragraphs of text!!!

This is meant to be a sentence maximum in this place.

This will destroy all the other core places where Empty State design is used.

avatar PhilETaylor
PhilETaylor - comment - 22 Sep 2021

Some examples of how other people add additional help...
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avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 22 Sep 2021

i agree that center alignment should not be used for paragraphs.

phil is also correct in saying that this place is only intended to be used for a sentence

i wonder why in german there is such a long block of text and in english just a short sentence

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avatar PhilETaylor
PhilETaylor - comment - 22 Sep 2021

Every single google search I have done for "Empty State Design" shows entered text following the title. I failed to find any examples of Empty State Design with paragraphs.

avatar chmst
chmst - comment - 22 Sep 2021

Agree that is should be very short text. So will inform german language team, thanks.

avatar chmst chmst - change - 22 Sep 2021
Status Pending Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2021-09-22 20:39:16
Closed_By chmst
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avatar chmst chmst - close - 22 Sep 2021
avatar PhilETaylor
PhilETaylor - comment - 22 Sep 2021

I am not saying that empty state cannot have lots of text, but that needs to be designed into the state, and not just placed in the short description under the title which should just be one sentence long ideally.

There are lots of examples of empty state design which are a lot better than ours, and I fully expect iterative improvements to this kind of view over time to provide more help and guides for new users

avatar chmst
chmst - comment - 22 Sep 2021

The empty text was a great improvment as is. At the moment there is not much free capacity for beautifer actions.

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