J4 Issue ?
avatar jaisheela
jaisheela
7 Nov 2020

Steps to reproduce the issue

Go to Admin view
Move to Content Menu
Go to Articles
Check Article filters
Tag filter shows no tags (No results match)

Expected result

It should show the tags created for filtering the article as in it should have predefined tags

Actual result

I have created 8 tag but it says "no results match"

System information (as much as possible)

Joomla 4
notag
tag

MySQL 5.7.32-0ubuntu0.18.04.1

PHP Version | 7.3.12-1+ubuntu18.04.1+deb.sury.org+1

Additional comments

avatar jaisheela jaisheela - open - 7 Nov 2020
avatar joomla-cms-bot joomla-cms-bot - change - 7 Nov 2020
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Title
Admin view -Article Filter-Tag Filter - Unable to view pre-defined tag or assigned tags to articles as Jooma 3x
[4.0]Admin view -Article Filter-Tag Filter - Unable to view pre-defined tag or assigned tags to articles as Jooma 3x
avatar jaisheela jaisheela - edited - 7 Nov 2020
avatar jaisheela
jaisheela - comment - 7 Nov 2020

Uploading joom3x.png…

avatar infograf768
infograf768 - comment - 7 Nov 2020

Confirmed.
In J3 we have

Screen Shot 2020-11-07 at 18 29 27

@wilsonge

avatar infograf768 infograf768 - change - 7 Nov 2020
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avatar infograf768
infograf768 - comment - 7 Nov 2020

Setting as release blocker

avatar agi-code
agi-code - comment - 8 Nov 2020

Are the tags shown if you enter 3 letters
#30385 (comment) ?

avatar infograf768
infograf768 - comment - 8 Nov 2020

yes, only the tags which fit, very different from J3

avatar SharkyKZ
SharkyKZ - comment - 8 Nov 2020

Expected behavior as already explained in #30385 and in many other issues.

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 11 Nov 2020

Expected behaviour regarding how these "fancy selects" work, i.e. it is not a bug what has been observed here.

But that doesn't mean there is no issue. You have to look up the names of tags somewhere else to know which 3 characters could be suitable. Or can you type ANY 3 characters, matching or not, to see the available tags? I think no. It's a functional downgrade compare to "normal "multiselects, and it's bad UX, too.

avatar regularlabs
regularlabs - comment - 11 Nov 2020

This is SOOO user-unfriendly!

Apart from it being ridiculous to have to search for tags to show them (which is not implied anywhere), there are bugs to this approach.
Tags with 1 or 2 letters: can't look them up.
In the tag assignment field (article edit): type 2 letters and save will use the existing tag if it already exists. But no feedback anywhere if it does or not.
There in NO way to assign a 1-letter tag to an article. But it is possible to create 1 letter tags in the Tag manager.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 11 Nov 2020

No matter if as a developer you expect it or not - this is not correct.

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 11 Nov 2020

Well, the "no results match" is definitely wrong.

avatar regularlabs
regularlabs - comment - 11 Nov 2020

"Dear mister Web Dev, for our Citroën car parts site we try to create tags, like C1 and C3 and DS 7. After losing a day thinking it was our fault we finally found a way to select the "DS 7" tag by writing it in full in the tag select field. But the C1 and C3 tags never appear".

"Oh, you can create them. You just can't search or select them. That is how it is meant to be. Tags need at least 3 characters."

"I thought you said Joomla is a mature web platform."

"Well, I recommend we build your site on Joomla 3, as it was no issue there."

"What about you just go away and we let someone else build it on Wordpress!"

avatar regularlabs
regularlabs - comment - 11 Nov 2020

(Ok, I'll crawl back into my own coding space and shut up 😁 )

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 11 Nov 2020

They have to rename their cars to something longer ;-)

avatar SharkyKZ
SharkyKZ - comment - 12 Nov 2020

This is SOOO user-unfriendly!

Apart from it being ridiculous to have to search for tags to show them (which is not implied anywhere), there are bugs to this approach.
Tags with 1 or 2 letters: can't look them up.
In the tag assignment field (article edit): type 2 letters and save will use the existing tag if it already exists. But no feedback anywhere if it does or not.
There in NO way to assign a 1-letter tag to an article. But it is possible to create 1 letter tags in the Tag manager.

You can change this with Minimum Search Length option in Tags component configuration.

avatar infograf768
infograf768 - comment - 12 Nov 2020

I still consider this as a release blocker.
Do we really need this fancy selects for tags?

avatar infograf768
infograf768 - comment - 12 Nov 2020

In fact, there is a solution: Instead of chosing AJAX, one can choose Nested in Tags configuration...

Screen Shot 2020-11-12 at 10 23 52

Maybe Nested should be default.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 12 Nov 2020

This problem applies everywhere that this select script is used. not just for tags

avatar infograf768
infograf768 - comment - 12 Nov 2020

Everywhere?
What about Category field?

Screen Shot 2020-11-12 at 17 54 46

Or Select Author filter?

avatar HLeithner HLeithner - close - 24 Nov 2020
avatar HLeithner
HLeithner - comment - 24 Nov 2020

Created a solution that hopefully fits all needs at #31481

Closing this.

avatar HLeithner HLeithner - change - 24 Nov 2020
Status New Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2020-11-24 23:47:00
Closed_By HLeithner
avatar wilsonge wilsonge - change - 15 Dec 2020
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