J4 Issue ?
avatar coolcat-creations
coolcat-creations
12 Apr 2020

What needs to be fixed

Just a question: Sample Data is most likely to be used only once and only shortly after Installing Joomla. Is the Home Dashboard really the place to have it constantly there?
In favor of a better overview and usability I would rather see it on the system or content dashboard? What do you all think?
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avatar coolcat-creations coolcat-creations - open - 12 Apr 2020
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wilsonge - comment - 12 Apr 2020

Whilst I agree I'm slightly concerned about the multilang sample install as that enables the language filter plugins etc and I don't want to make that part too hidden. However I also agree it being available on the dashboard after it being used makes little sense

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Status New Discussion
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richard67 - comment - 12 Apr 2020

The thing is that on a multilingual site you can use the blog sample data multiple times, one time for each language. So to hide Blog Sample Data after having been used once would not be good.

avatar coolcat-creations
coolcat-creations - comment - 12 Apr 2020

how about placing two buttons below to let the user decide "ask me later" or "no thanks" and thenn hide the module after being used or after the decision

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 12 Apr 2020

So or so, when moving around I would pefer the system dashboard. The content dashboard is too hidden in my opinion. But that's just my personal taste.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 12 Apr 2020

there is already a pr for only displaying multilingual sample data on a multilingual site

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 12 Apr 2020

Hmm, the system dashboard is so full already, better not move it to there.

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 12 Apr 2020

@brianteeman I guess you meant PR #20749 , right?

avatar infograf768
infograf768 - comment - 12 Apr 2020

Please, please... Sample data install not being any more possible during J installation, they have to be available in a very obvious way, and that is in the first CPanel dashboard.
As for #20749 I have already commented on it.
Hiding stuff is not the right way to help users. J is not only for integrators...

avatar alikon
alikon - comment - 12 Apr 2020

simple disable the relative plugins if you don't want those in the dashboard
plus the relative sample data admin module

avatar coolcat-creations
coolcat-creations - comment - 12 Apr 2020

Maybe it would be good to have a simple / advanced switch in the installation process ? Is that a idea to suit all target groups?

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 12 Apr 2020

Not really a solution as anyone using a hosting companies installer will never see that

avatar coolcat-creations
coolcat-creations - comment - 13 Apr 2020

@brianteeman good point. Then maybe a one-click hide button would be nice.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 13 Apr 2020

That already exists - see animation below
mods

avatar coolcat-creations
coolcat-creations - comment - 13 Apr 2020

@brianteeman - Yes I meant a one-click solution to make it as easy as possible. But that's fair enough.

avatar alikon
alikon - comment - 13 Apr 2020

so can we close this one ?

avatar Bakual
Bakual - comment - 13 Apr 2020

Since the sample data module can also be used by 3rd parties, hiding it isn't the best way as you wouldn't see sample data installation for your newly installed component.
A better solution would be to have that unpublish function also for each sample data (plugin) listed in that module. Then one could just easily hide the multilingual and blog sampe data while the module would still be able to display newly added sample data plugins.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 27 Apr 2021

A recent PR has now implemented the suggestion from @Bakual so I guess this can be closed

avatar richard67 richard67 - change - 27 Apr 2021
Status Discussion Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2021-04-27 09:02:21
Closed_By richard67
avatar richard67 richard67 - close - 27 Apr 2021
avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 27 Apr 2021

Closing as fixed by #33168 and #33169 . Feel free to re-open if this is a mistake.

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