The list is displayed in alphabetical order

Should the list not be ordered for “convenience” vs fixed.

The need to scroll down each time for Articles is not necessary.

Change the name from “Single Article” to “Article-Single” would put it near the top.

Changing “Archived Articles” to “Articles-Archived” would order those two items correctly.

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The list is displayed in alphabetical order

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These naming depend on the language used. What may be OK in English is not necessary correct in other languages.
This should be closed.

The only thing I could think of would be to change the name so that it has a numerical prefix. That should work in all languages. eg 2.. Archived Articles 1. Categpry Blog

Or you could do it yourself with language overrides as I just did here

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Does the back end not change based on language.

In any case, thanks for the push back on helping with the issue.

Guess we just need to “live with it” and keep scrolling down for the most used choice.

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These naming depend on the language used. What may be OK in English is not necessary correct in other languages.
This should be closed.

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Numbering might make sense.

Problem with “overrides” reverts back to the question of: how many beginner users know how to create/invoke overrides? So that does not appear to be a proper solution.

In any case, any way that the MOST USED (Articles) should appear on a list before the LEAST USED (Archived Articles) makes sense.

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The only thing I could think of would be to change the name so that it has a numerical prefix. That should work in all languages. eg 2.. Archived Articles 1. Categpry Blog

Or you could do it yourself with language overrides as I just did here

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File concerned is com_content.sys.ini
We do not have the issue in French

en-GB
COM_CONTENT_ARCHIVE_VIEW_DEFAULT_TITLE="Archived Articles"
COM_CONTENT_ARTICLE_VIEW_DEFAULT_TITLE="Single Article"

fr-FR
COM_CONTENT_ARTICLE_VIEW_DEFAULT_TITLE="Article"
COM_CONTENT_ARCHIVE_VIEW_DEFAULT_TITLE="Articles archivés"
as we thought we did not need to use the word "single" ("seul") in French which would not change the order anyway but looks quite useless.

Therefore you can make an override for en-GB or we can modify in core en-GB by taking off the word "Single"

Adding a numerical prefix only for articles would make no sense imho as we should be consequent and also add such prefixes for other components. What would be the correct order for Users?

Removing the word Single will not change the alphabetical order ;)

Archived Articles
Article

Note that in Farsi - com_content is the penultimate set of options when selecting a menu

Removing the word Single will not change the alphabetical order ;)

It will in the sense that it would display near the top instead of the end of the list.

It is not a good solution.
There is an ordering column in the table - its just not used :(

The ordering could then be made consistent across all languages

Not sure about that as ordering depends on db collation.

Really. We use the ordering column everywhere

ordering up an down does not mean it is the ordering related to language. It is only relative to alphabetical order as the collation sees it.

I am talking about using the ordering column which is numerical.