J3 Issue ?
avatar coolcat-creations
coolcat-creations
7 Sep 2019

What needs to be fixed

In Joomla Backend there is a Menu item Joomla!-Help. It includes the Google Tag manager. I think due to GDPR - at least in Germany it's like that, you have to have a popup informing about the tracking.

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Why this should be fixed

GPPR / DSGVO

How would you fix it

Put an external link to the docs from there instead of embedding?

Side Effects expected

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avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 7 Sep 2019

Or simply remove the tags from the help pagrs

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avatar mbabker
mbabker - comment - 7 Sep 2019
  1. This belongs moreso on the websites repo than the CMS repo

  2. It's the same tracking code on all joomla.org pages. Because, ultimately, that iframe is loading content from help.joomla.org (and docs.joomla.org also has the GA code in it, so should analytics be removed from there if it is direct linked from the CMS? I don't see how direct linking versus loading a page in an iframe would get past the "you have analytics on this page called from my Joomla backend" concern). It would be another argument altogether if it were loading content from your local server and Joomla was forcibly injecting some kind of analytics. But, feel free to remove it from https://github.com/joomla/help.joomla.org if it's really that bothersome.

avatar coolcat-creations
coolcat-creations - comment - 7 Sep 2019

With "direct linking" I meant to place an external link to this site instead of embedding it in the backend. Of course you need to inform your visitors anyway about the usage of tracking cookies. Yes.

avatar mbabker
mbabker - comment - 7 Sep 2019

The docs site still loads analytics though. So your concern of "Joomla references help information that includes analytics" isn't answered by changing where the link points without removing analytics from the docs site as well. It's only "embedded in the backend" by loading an iframe so that the user is not required to leave their site while reviewing help content, otherwise the entire help screen system could just be replaced with direct links to the docs site everywhere and the over-engineered docs API HTML parsing system could be decommissioned.

As for the lack of notification about the fact any of the sites have analytics, blame the compliance team who have yet to finalize the system to be used across all subdomains (which would eventually also apply to the help screens), of which I finished the work they asked of me to help get it implemented 9 months ago. It's not anything unique to the help subdomain.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 7 Sep 2019

Please close this here and open in the correct place https://github.com/joomla/joomla-websites/ as there is nothing that can be done here

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Status Discussion Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2019-09-09 08:30:19
Closed_By coolcat-creations
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