J4 Issue ? ?
avatar brianteeman
brianteeman
16 Jun 2019

In the core of Joomla no individual is given specific named credit. This is true for everywhere except for the template. Why? What makes the template so special that we don't follow the same convention?

avatar brianteeman brianteeman - open - 16 Jun 2019
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avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 16 Jun 2019

Good question.

avatar ghazal
ghazal - comment - 16 Jun 2019

+1

Plus, there is a structural flaw in the footer tag:

<footer class="grid-child container-footer footer">
	<hr>
	<p class="float-right">
		<a href="#top" id="back-top" class="back-top">
			<span class="icon-arrow-up-4" aria-hidden="true"></span>
			<span class="sr-only"><?php echo Text::_('TPL_CASSIOPEIA_BACKTOTOP'); ?></span>
			</a>
		</p>
<jdoc:include type="modules" name="footer" style="none" />
	</footer>

The "back-to-top" feature is in the same tag as a call to a module in a footer position. So, when one assigns a module to this position, the module content is "glued" to the "back-to-top".

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 16 Jun 2019

Plus, there is a structural flaw in the footer tag:

@ghazal Please check if there is already an issue for that and create one, if not.

avatar ghazal
ghazal - comment - 16 Jun 2019

Done.
[#25239]

avatar franz-wohlkoenig franz-wohlkoenig - change - 17 Jun 2019
Status New Discussion
avatar alikon
alikon - comment - 17 Jun 2019

I don't know why template should be special, imho no individual name credit should exists even in template

avatar mbabker
mbabker - comment - 17 Jun 2019

The 4.0 templates are no different than the templates of 3.x, 2.5, and it looks like 1.5 (assuming I went far enough back in git history because I can't be bothered to download something that old) regarding author name. I could have sworn this discussion has happened in the past, maybe there's something in the all-but-abandoned Google Groups. If there's nothing there, it's probably buried in a Skype channel and good luck finding that.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 17 Jun 2019

The previous templates just had the name of the main designer. (Which I was always against) the proposed new one has a long list of SOME of the people who have worked on the template.

I saw no reason in the past and I see no reason now to treat contribution to the template any differently to the rest of joomla.

All together as a whole!

avatar mbabker
mbabker - comment - 17 Jun 2019

I don't really care either way what the result is. I just wanted to make sure it was clear in this thread the templates (for better or worse) have historically NOT had <author>Joomla! Project</author>, since when I originally read this I was thinking there was some change between 3.x and 4.0 (which there is in the number of names, but that's it right now).

avatar ot2sen
ot2sen - comment - 17 Jun 2019

It goes back to the first templates included. Thought of as external work, external support to some extent. Same with the early competition included templates. Made precedence of some sort.
History tells though that it ends up being community supported, and logically should hold the same project credits (and no favoured mini advertising in the core distributed package).
J4 could be the step to change that, to get in line with the rest of the distribution.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 17 Jun 2019

Thanks for the historical info @ot2sen I forgot about the competitions

avatar joomla-cms-bot joomla-cms-bot - change - 3 Jul 2019
Status Discussion Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2019-07-03 18:59:53
Closed_By joomla-cms-bot
avatar alikon alikon - change - 3 Jul 2019
Closed_By joomla-cms-bot alikon
avatar joomla-cms-bot joomla-cms-bot - close - 3 Jul 2019
avatar joomla-cms-bot
joomla-cms-bot - comment - 3 Jul 2019

Set to "closed" on behalf of @alikon by The JTracker Application at issues.joomla.org/joomla-cms/25237

avatar alikon
alikon - comment - 3 Jul 2019

see #25419


This comment was created with the J!Tracker Application at issues.joomla.org/tracker/joomla-cms/25237.

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