J3 Issue J4 Issue ?
avatar infograf768
infograf768
25 Jul 2018

Steps to reproduce the issue

Create multilingual site with 3 languages.

Create for example 1 article (or anything else) in 2 of the Content Languages and associate them.

Then create another article tagged to the 3rd Content Language. Save (NOT Save and Close).

Switch to the Associations tab and Select Association for only one of the Content Languages.

Example with contacts:

assoc_3

Expected result

The Article should be associated to the already associated articles.

Actual result

It is not and the result is that the formerly associated articles are not associated anymore without any Alert.

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infograf768 - comment - 25 Jul 2018

Note: the problem does not exist when using the multilingual associations component to create or associate an item to another which already has associations for other languages.

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infograf768 - comment - 25 Jul 2018

Note2: the problem is not recent. It also existed for menu items associations in 2.5

avatar franz-wohlkoenig
franz-wohlkoenig - comment - 25 Jul 2018

can't test Issue because of #21238

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franz-wohlkoenig - comment - 25 Jul 2018

i'm on cloudaccess (nightly) so i can't.

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Category com_associations
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Status New Discussion
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infograf768 - comment - 25 Jul 2018

Imho we just need an Alert in case there is already associated items for the item added in the association field.

avatar Bakual
Bakual - comment - 25 Jul 2018

Personally speaking, this is expected behavior. Since I tell in the item A to only associate it with the specified other item B and the remaining languages are left empty. I don't expect it to magically fill up with the item C and D originally associated to that other item B.

If it would not behave like this, how would you ever take off an item from an association group? It would always automatically fill up again.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 25 Jul 2018

I do not agree with your assessment of expected behaviour and as Thomas rightly points out it could never work either. And as you point out it has been this way since 2.5 so I guess no one else sees it as expected behaviour or they would have said something by now.

avatar infograf768
infograf768 - comment - 25 Jul 2018

I have received many surprised comments by French users about that (and some very recently) as it is damned easy to kill existing associations by forgetting an item is already associated.
The fact that it is working such since 2.5 does not mean it is good. We happily corrected a lot of stuff since 2.5 and this is NOT an argument.

As I suggested, we may need a trick to at least inform the user he may kill existing associations before save, or a specific Ajax call through a button that would automatically fill all the fields with the existing associations if desired. The second one is out of my abilities.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 25 Jul 2018

A warning should only be displayed when there are existing associations that will be removed. A warning should not be displayed on the possibility that an association may be removed.

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infograf768 - comment - 31 Jul 2018

Closing as we have an Ajax solution #21321

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Status Discussion Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2018-07-31 09:37:38
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avatar kahisfz
kahisfz - comment - 25 May 2020

Hi,
I have a strange issue in Joomla 3.9.18, the language switch is working fine till the menu items, but articles are not being translated, the articles are perfectly associated. I am wondering what can cause this issue? any help is appreciated.
thanks

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 25 May 2020

@kahisfz Please use the forum for support https://forum.joomla.org and please provide more information when you post on the forum

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