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avatar dsimonse
dsimonse
7 Aug 2017

Steps to reproduce the issue

When at the backend gereration a new user the password field(s) is now requirerd. That was not required before since the password was auto-generated and sent to the user.

Expected result

The password field(s) should not be required during backend registration and a auto-generated password should be sent to the user.

Actual result

Typing a password is required

System information (as much as possible)

joomla 3.7.4
YouJoomla 2.2.8
user

Additional comments

avatar dsimonse dsimonse - open - 7 Aug 2017
avatar joomla-cms-bot joomla-cms-bot - change - 7 Aug 2017
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avatar franz-wohlkoenig franz-wohlkoenig - change - 7 Aug 2017
Category Authentication com_users
avatar tonypartridge
tonypartridge - comment - 7 Aug 2017

@dsimonse can you please confirm which Joomla! Version auto set the password? I've never known this to be a core feature of Joomla! Nor can I see it as a confirm option anywhere.

What you describe is a feature of Wordpress however.

avatar dsimonse
dsimonse - comment - 7 Aug 2017

Hi,
Well I'm not using Wordpress for sure. Been using Joomla for about 2 years now and I never had to register a password for a user, and the user got a password with the welcome email. So every Joomla version for the past 2 years.

avatar tonypartridge
tonypartridge - comment - 7 Aug 2017

You are very right this is a mistake change. I'll look into it

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Hi,
Well I'm not using Wordpress for sure. Been using Joomla for about 2 years now and I never had to register a password for a user, and the user got a password with the welcome email. So every Joomla version for the past 2 years.

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avatar tonypartridge
tonypartridge - comment - 7 Aug 2017

@dsimonse I've just checked J3.7.4 fresh install and these fields are not required on the backend. See:
screenshot 2017-08-07 22 44 29

Can you reinstall Joomla! Core files and check you do not have a custom profile or registration plugin installed?

avatar dsimonse
dsimonse - comment - 7 Aug 2017

I reinstalled the core-files with no change. I haven't installed any new plugins and I don't know if ACYMailing could change this behaviour (installed an update recently)?

avatar tonypartridge
tonypartridge - comment - 7 Aug 2017

I'm afraid you will need to test / check your 3rd party plugins and also check with english language although that shouldn't make a difference.

Many thanks
Tony

avatar dsimonse
dsimonse - comment - 7 Aug 2017

Will contact ACYMailing

avatar franz-wohlkoenig franz-wohlkoenig - change - 8 Aug 2017
Status New Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2017-08-08 05:17:55
Closed_By franz-wohlkoenig
avatar joomla-cms-bot joomla-cms-bot - change - 8 Aug 2017
Closed_Date 2017-08-08 05:17:55 2017-08-08 05:17:56
Closed_By franz-wohlkoenig joomla-cms-bot
avatar joomla-cms-bot joomla-cms-bot - close - 8 Aug 2017
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franz-wohlkoenig - comment - 8 Aug 2017

closed as no Core Issue. Please reopen, if its a Core Issue, thanks.


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joomla-cms-bot - comment - 8 Aug 2017
avatar dsimonse
dsimonse - comment - 9 Aug 2017

Hi,
Opened a case with ACYMAiling and here's their response:


Hi,

If you disable AcyMailing from your backend (http://rojteatern.nu/administrator/index.php?option=com_installer&view=manage) and then try to add user, the password is still mandatory, so I'm sorry but it seems that this doesn't come from AcyMailing..

Regards,

Alexandre - Acyba help desk team
support@acyba.com


So, now I don't know what to do. Can I change a key in the DB to get the fields to not be mandatory?

//Dennis


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tonypartridge - comment - 9 Aug 2017

I tested with acymailing and couldn't replicate it.

As originally suggested disable non core plugins.

On 9 Aug 2017, 09:07 +0100, dsimonse notifications@github.com, wrote:

Hi,
Opened a case with ACYMAiling and here's their response:
Hi,
If you disable AcyMailing from your backend (http://rojteatern.nu/administrator/index.php?option=com_installer&view=manage) and then try to add user, the password is still mandatory, so I'm sorry but it seems that this doesn't come from AcyMailing..
Regards,
Alexandre - Acyba help desk team
support@acyba.com
So, now I don't know what to do. Can I change a key in the DB to get the fields to not be mandatory?
//Dennis
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dsimonse - comment - 9 Aug 2017

Hi,

Please reopen, since I got response fron ACYMailing.

//Dennis

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tonypartridge - comment - 9 Aug 2017

It's a non core issue? I cannot replicate in any J release that the fields are mandatory.

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Please reopen, since I got response fron ACYMailing.

//Dennis

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avatar dsimonse
dsimonse - comment - 9 Aug 2017

So, now I don't know what to do. Can I change a key in the DB to get the fields to not be mandatory?

avatar tonypartridge
tonypartridge - comment - 9 Aug 2017

As originally suggested disable non core plugins.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 9 Aug 2017

It is not an issue with acymailing or with any non core plugins

As soon as you change/set a password option such as number of special characters then the password field is required. This is because the random password generator cannot create a password that satisfies those rules so the user would not be able to login.

So if you want to have password as not required and use generated passwords then you have to reset the password options

avatar tonypartridge
tonypartridge - comment - 9 Aug 2017

@brianteeman I agree, however in my tests the require asterisk was never shown when doing as you suggest. In his example the asterisk is there, the only thing that changed for me was it went to red for required in that scenario.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 9 Aug 2017

@tonypartridge set the number of uppercase characters to 5 and you will see it changes to required

avatar tonypartridge
tonypartridge - comment - 9 Aug 2017

Nope still shows as this.
screenshot 2017-08-09 09 52 36

However, I have just tried it on a clients site and noticed all fields are required by default. so will inspect it a bit more.

avatar dsimonse
dsimonse - comment - 9 Aug 2017

So what is the default settings?
usersettings

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 9 Aug 2017

screenshotr10-51-44

screenshotr10-51-59

avatar dsimonse
dsimonse - comment - 9 Aug 2017

Hi, ok changed to "min 4" but no change. In fact the registration still opts for 6 characters.
"Use at least 6 characters, uppercase and lowercase letter, numbers and at least one special character."

avatar dsimonse
dsimonse - comment - 9 Aug 2017

The text seems to be related to RSFirewall. If I disable that the text dissapears but the password field are still mandatory.

avatar tonypartridge
tonypartridge - comment - 9 Aug 2017

I've found the bug, looking into it now.

avatar tonypartridge
tonypartridge - comment - 9 Aug 2017

Ok so as a fix for you, go to:

Joomla! Plugins -> User - Joomla! -> click save.

avatar tonypartridge
tonypartridge - comment - 9 Aug 2017

@brianteeman @dsimonse this was fixed 9 days ago:
dbc7a4a

The issue occurs with certain upgrades of Joomla! where certain parameters are not set within the user plugin. Therefore the get request fails and falls to its default value. Which for some reason was 0 in the plugin. Next release of Joomla! will fix this.

avatar dsimonse
dsimonse - comment - 9 Aug 2017

Thanks! I disabled the "send email" and re-enabled it as per suggestion from RS and that fixed it as well.
But effectingly I clicked "save" :)

avatar sozzled
sozzled - comment - 9 Aug 2017

Passing comment for @brianteeman @dsimonse @tonypartridge

We've also been talking about this issue for the past week at the Joomla forum. Has nothing to do with AcyMailing (as @brianteeman correctly points out) but see https://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=706&t=953424

avatar tonypartridge
tonypartridge - comment - 9 Aug 2017

@sozzled this has been solved. Please see my last comments.

avatar sozzled
sozzled - comment - 9 Aug 2017

Yes, Tony, I understand the underlying cause has been addressed. I was only making an observation in passing that additional background information (which has been around for longer than since @dsimonse opened the issue here) is available at the forum. Aside from that, I agree there's no need to flog a dead horse.

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netmiller - comment - 23 Aug 2017

Thanks! Very much. I had same problem, and was lucky to find this conversation.
"Joomla! Plugins -> User - Joomla! -> click save" helped also in my case !

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