Can you suggest a better message?

but am stuck on what "Components Container" might be.

A container that include the components that you install. If you install weblinks it got added to the Components Container basicly this is the components dropdown.

Thanks

I guess I'm unclear on what the request is.

Do we need to make a menu link to every core component?

Do we need to make a menu link to every core component?

No there is a element called Components Container

set them to the right access level :)

OK, thanks. I see that menu link now.

What permission setting controls access to it?

super user? Or what ever you want to do with it. If the normal user of that menu should not see it. ;)

Thanks. OK, if that's true, it's not working.

Here's my tutorial with step-by-step instructions:
https://www.joomlashack.com/blog/tutorials/new-admin-menus/

At the end, the "Publisher" group can still see this:

Works as expected:
With that setting (everything to hide)

Thanks for the help. That works now.

OK, the truth is I never would have understood that without your help.

The original error message is vague and the workaround is only possible if someone holds your hand.

I know you say this works as expected, but in the current state, I don't think we expect anyone to successfully do this.

It's definitely something we need to fix, IMHO.

Please share your ideas i have not sayed it is perfect as it is. But also remember this is meant to be something for more advanced use cases and should IMO not be done on every site just because you can ;).

I guess my first thought is:

1. Can we clear up the message text?
2. Can we make it dismissable?

What's the thinking behind making this message un-dismissable?

Can we make it dismissable?

Yes there is a option for that Check menu

Can we clear up the message text?

Sure do you have suggestions for a better text?

Ah, problem solved! The "Check menu" option solves everything :)

Still, we could make the message clearer, based on that.

I guess my question for the message is ... who are we talking to? Are we talking to a low-level user (with no permission to act on the message) or the Super Admin?

We talk to the super admin testing that or setting it up. As if he is ready he is going to set the setting from above. We are also talking to the user who is testing that new feature and misconfigured it. So he can't go back to a working state. There for we have added the recovery mode that allow you to come back to a working state.

If wonder if all of that is too much for a simple message?

Maybe we need a documentation page?

"The administrator menu (Publisher menu) does not contain some expected links. Click here for details on how to add those links, or click here to automatically see the links."

Than i would name it:

The current administrator menu <b>Publisher menu</b> does not contain some importent entrys (that ther or 2 or one using sprintf). See the documentation (link that to the dokumentaion) for details on how to add those links, or turn on the recovery mode

Can you start with that documentation page? Else we cannot link it from there. Let me know if i can help you on that.

Sure, I can do that.

One question I do have ... what is the thinking behind requiring Menu Manager, Module Manager and this Component menu? Why are those the three essential links?

Menu manager (you can change the admin menu here) modul manager (you can reset to preset here) components container (new components that are installed show up there) if you don't have that but you can install a component it wont show up in the menu. So this is not needed to the publisher menu but essencial to a admin (even not superadmin)

Ok, thanks @zero-24. I'll try and write up that documentation page this week.

same error The administrator menu menuadmin does not contain - Menu Manager, Module Manager, Components Container

I dont get it, I dont want to turn on the recovery mode, I just want a custom admin menu with whatever I want in it , nothing more nothing less

thanks for helping

@ymages thats why you can turn off the check in the admin menu module

ok but I dont know what to do to turn it off ?

thanks for helping

I solved it by hiding the alert MOD_MENU_IMPORTANT_ITEMS_INACCESSIBLE_LIST_WARNING with nothing in it

I guess nobody will understand what to do , this message should not be here or explain what to do exactly

The correct way is to set the check menu option to no

ok got it !

thanks a lot

Set to "closed" on behalf of @franz-wohlkoenig by The JTracker Application at issues.joomla.org/joomla-cms/15463

closed as Issue resolved. Please feel free to reopen for further Discussion.

Reopening as the main issue rewrite that message is not fixed yet ;)

I've been out the office this week, but should have time to work on the documentation page next week.

Great. Let me know when i can help you.

the check menu should be off by default

@ymages absolutely not - it is there for important reasons and must be on by default

and 10 000 users will ask to fix it ...

That message is there to stop a site owner locking themselves out of key functionality. It is not going to change

I fixed it for myself ... no problem for me

thanks

@brianteeman Should we provide a link to the setting page in the message itself (something similar to that in Post Install Messages)?

@stevejburge did you ever write that documentation?

Closed due to lack of response