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avatar brianteeman
brianteeman
19 Mar 2017

Steps to reproduce the issue

In J4 we have all the Save buttons combined together - great

screenshotr11-27-09

This gives us the opportunity to reconsider what the correct options should be. On a site with an advanced workflow you might need to save all articles as unpublished first until they are approved.

Currently to do that you have to change the state to Unpublish and then Save
Why not add a new Save option - Save as Unpublished - see screenshot

screenshotr11-24-53

If we do this the we have made the first step towards having advanced workflow for creating,, editing and approving articles directly in the UI

avatar brianteeman brianteeman - open - 19 Mar 2017
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avatar tonypartridge
tonypartridge - comment - 19 Mar 2017

Agreed @brianteeman this is then the actions system for our users to action exactly how they want to save the article in many states. Great idea.

Probably can close: #14326 since this is related

avatar franz-wohlkoenig
franz-wohlkoenig - comment - 19 Mar 2017

and width of Dropdown-Field is same as green Save-Button+v.

avatar dgt41
dgt41 - comment - 19 Mar 2017

For starters let's make default the action save and close as for save there is also a hotkey ctrl + S

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 19 Mar 2017

absolutely yes - although thats ot what this RFC was about ;)

avatar rjcf18
rjcf18 - comment - 30 Mar 2017

Regarding this improvement will this only be approached after the UX update? Or there can be a PR implementing this before that?

avatar franz-wohlkoenig franz-wohlkoenig - change - 30 Mar 2017
Category Feature Request
avatar franz-wohlkoenig franz-wohlkoenig - change - 3 Apr 2017
Category Feature Request com_content Feature Request JavaScript Templates (admin) UI/UX
avatar franz-wohlkoenig franz-wohlkoenig - change - 3 Apr 2017
Status New Discussion
avatar tonypartridge
tonypartridge - comment - 6 Apr 2017

The UX update might be a little way away yet. What about someone @C-Lodder doing a PR then we can ask users to test on the new system and the J4 research could contain questions and comments on this.

avatar C-Lodder
C-Lodder - comment - 6 Apr 2017

There are 2 options:

  1. There is now a UX survey out and one of the questions asks which button you use the most in the toolbar. You can wait for that before decoding what to do with it.

  2. Just go ahead and make the default Save & Close as I've seen a lot of power users mention it's annoying having to click twice to access it.

As for the Save as Unpublished, this is a nice idea.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 6 Apr 2017

I kind of expanded my thoughts on workflow in a blog post
https://brian.teeman.net/joomla/886-content-workflow-in-joomla

From that post I guess I am talking about Save as Unpublished being displayed as the default instead of Save when a user doesnt have publish rights

avatar C-Lodder
C-Lodder - comment - 6 Apr 2017

Sounds good. In which case we can ditch the dropdown and display a single button, in this case.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 6 Apr 2017

No we still need a dropdown for the other options "save as copy" etc just that my proposal for save as unpublished wouldnt be needed unless the workflow scenario matched

avatar C-Lodder
C-Lodder - comment - 6 Apr 2017

Ah does Save as Copy set the item to unpublished too?

avatar tonypartridge
tonypartridge - comment - 6 Apr 2017

Yes

Thanks
Tony

On 6 Apr 2017, 09:48 +0100, Lodder notifications@github.com, wrote:

Ah does Save as Copy set the item to unpublished too?


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avatar brianteeman brianteeman - edited - 6 Apr 2017
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Title
[j4] Improved workflow RFC
[4.0] Improved workflow RFC
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Status Discussion Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2017-06-14 19:53:51
Closed_By brianteeman
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