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avatar riga75
riga75
29 Jul 2016

Steps to reproduce the issue

I found a bug on joomla 3.6
If I create an entry with type Alias menu item menu and put the alias I get (with the old version of Joomla instead it puts an alias automatically type the date and time:
screen shot 2016-07-29 at 03 38 16

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avatar riga75 riga75 - open - 29 Jul 2016
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brianteeman - comment - 29 Jul 2016

Not a bug. It is the intended behaviour that a menu type Alias now gets a
real alias and not the date and time.
What you are seeing in the error message is that you already have a menu
item with the same alias

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Steps to reproduce the issue

I found a bug on joomla 3.6
If I create an entry with type Alias menu item menu and put the alias I
get (with the old version of Joomla instead it puts an alias automatically
type the date and time:
[image: screen shot 2016-07-29 at 03 38 16]
https://camo.githubusercontent.com/98b8b98d1389ae90f759a76f892b42fdece3c053/68747470733a2f2f6973737565732e6a6f6f6d6c612e6f72672f75706c6f6164732f312f61613764313537316336316338636338343939336337353031356336386435302e706e67
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riga75 - comment - 29 Jul 2016

It is ok but first put the alias automatically, not anymore?
On the user side it was better before? Now an average user (forgive me but I have an advanced user) does not know what to put, before it was automatic and seocndo me was better, also because what he writes them being an item alis has no effect on the site's url, and therefore useless, or I'm wrong?


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AlexRed - comment - 29 Jul 2016

I can confirm the Issues, no more date and time :(


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brianteeman - comment - 29 Jul 2016

It is deliberate to remove the date and time - it is not a bug - it was a
feature request
See #9980

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I can confirm the Issues, no more date and time :(

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riga75 - comment - 29 Jul 2016

Excuse my ignorance brianteeman but why one should write by hand (given that no good would automatically because the error message) as an alias that is useless? since the url comes epresa the menu item "original"?
thank you for your explanation

stefano


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riga75 - comment - 29 Jul 2016

Excuse my ignorance brianteeman but why one should write by hand (given that no good would automatically because the error message) as an alias that is useless? because the URL is taken from the menu item "original"?
thank you for your explanation


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brianteeman - comment - 29 Jul 2016

An automatic alias will always be good UNLESS you have another menu item at
the exact same level of the menu with the same name. When do you ever have
that?

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Excuse my ignorance brianteeman but why one should write by hand (given
that no good would automatically because the error message) as an alias
that is useless? because the URL is taken from the menu item "original"?

thank you for your explanation

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brianteeman - comment - 29 Jul 2016

I hope this will explain it better than I am able to

#10756

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An automatic alias will always be good UNLESS you have another menu item
at the exact same level of the menu with the same name. When do you ever
have that?

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Excuse my ignorance brianteeman but why one should write by hand (given
that no good would automatically because the error message) as an alias
that is useless? because the URL is taken from the menu item "original"?

thank you for your explanation

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riga75 - comment - 29 Jul 2016

Yes, but we assume that being a "copy" of another page if it has a different url you have a duplicate contenuo and the search engine is not good. If I understood not bad if you do as you say you will give the ability to create duplicate content


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riga75 - comment - 29 Jul 2016

Yes, but we assume that being a "copy" of another page if it has a different url you have a duplicate content and the search engine is not good. If I understood not bad if you do as you say you will give the ability to create duplicate content


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jeckodevelopment - comment - 29 Jul 2016

I tried to create a "menu item alias" and the alias field has been automatically generated from the menu item Title.

@riga75 as said, the alias of an "alias menu item" is not considered when creating the URL.

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riga75 - comment - 29 Jul 2016

@jeckodevelopment If you do it with joomla 3.6 does not create the alias you automatically, has also confirmed @AlexRed

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brianteeman - comment - 29 Jul 2016

Maybe you can switch to speaking in Italian Luca as I believe what I wrote
has been lost in translation

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jeckodevelopment - comment - 29 Jul 2016

@riga75 tested with 3.6 and it automatically generates the alias from the title.
the only change is that the alias is now taken from the menu item's title and it's no more automatically filled with date and time.

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riga75 - comment - 30 Jul 2016

Come dice @brianteeman ti scrivo in italiano @jeckodevelopment così magari mi spiego meglio.
Hai ragione tu che mette in automatico nelll'alias il titolo ma mi spieghi cosa serve visto che da ovviament eil messaggio di errore? Così facendo fate fare un passaggio inutile all'utent eperchè deve cambiare l'alias e se è un utente poco esperto non sa cosa fare. grazie

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jeckodevelopment - comment - 30 Jul 2016

@riga75 Stefano non ti so dire il motivo per cui questa scelta sia stata presa.
Generalmente non è molto diffuso l'utilizzo di un nome identico per due voci di menù, quindi non crea problemi l'autogenerazione dell'alias derivato dal nome della voce di menù.
Il messaggio di errore è visualizzato (giustamente) quando esiste un'altra voce di menù che utilizza lo stesso alias e quindi è necessario un intervento manuale.
Brian ha fatto riferimento a questa PR: #10756

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brianteeman - comment - 1 Aug 2016

I am closing this as expected behaviour

(It is beyond me why someone would ever create an alias with the same name as another menu item on the exact same level)


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avatar brianteeman brianteeman - change - 1 Aug 2016
Status New Expected Behaviour
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2016-08-01 08:28:17
Closed_By brianteeman
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brianteeman - comment - 1 Aug 2016

The issue is this. Before 3.6 when you created a menu typw alias then it was always given an alias of the date. This was a problem when you had a submenu or breadcrumbs and this date was in the url. Now the alias is generated just as it would for any other menu item.

You cannot have two items with the same alias at the same level. Thats what the error message is saying (at least it is in english I hope the italian is not a bad translation).

If the menu type alias is not at the same level or does not have the same title then there is no problem

The only scenario that you will ever see that error message is if you are creating a menu alias to a menu item called Contact at the same level.

I cannot see why you would ever have two menu items with the same name at the same level

(Note this restriction applies to all menu items not just alias)


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