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avatar smanzi
smanzi
1 Dec 2014

When accessing /administrator/index.php?option=com_installer&view=languages (Install Accredited Language Translations), we get a partially populated list of available language, like, e.g.:

Bahasa Indonesia
EnglishCA
Finnish
FrenchCA
Montenegrin
Serbian Cyrillic
Sinhala
Swahili
Vietnamese
Welsh

The actual list may vary...

Clicking on "Find languages" does indeed load all available languages, but I think this partially populated list is quite misleading: it wold be better to have the list empty or, best, completely populated.

avatar smanzi smanzi - open - 1 Dec 2014
avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 1 Dec 2014

Not for me.

avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 1 Dec 2014

@brianteeman fresh install?

avatar zero-24
zero-24 - comment - 1 Dec 2014

@smanzi can you check if this is fixed after a disable and enable the update server on the new Update Server view?

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avatar zero-24 zero-24 - change - 1 Dec 2014
Category Administration UI/UX
avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 1 Dec 2014

Yes I always test each issue on a completely new install
On 1 Dec 2014 19:00, "zero-24" notifications@github.com wrote:

@smanzi https://github.com/smanzi can you check if this is fixed after
a disable and enable the update server on the new Update Server view?

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avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 1 Dec 2014

@zero-24 OK, will test!
@brianteeman sorry for asking!

What should I get on first activation with fresh install? Empty list or fully populated list?

avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 1 Dec 2014

@zero-24 Just to be clear... you are asking for me to do the following:

  1. fresh install
  2. disable update server
  3. enable update server
  4. go to the "Install languages" page

correct?

avatar zero-24
zero-24 - comment - 1 Dec 2014

correct?

Yes and / or disable --> enable the update server on the installation you use to reproduce the issue.

avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 1 Dec 2014

Screenshots:
InstallLanguagesAfterFreshInstall
freshinstall
DisableUpdateServer
disableupdateserver
AfterDisableUpdateServer
afterdisableupdateserver
FindLanguagesNoServer
findlanguagesnoserver
EnableUpdateServer
enableupdateserver
AfterEnabledServer
afterenabledserver
FindLanguagesEnabledServer
findlanguagesenabledserver

avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 1 Dec 2014

As you see after a fresh install I have partially populated lists of available languages.
Only by clicking on "Find Languages" (with the updated server active) I get the full list (comapre first and last screenshot...)

avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 1 Dec 2014

BTW, the "Name" for the "Accredited Joomla! Translations" "Update Site" seems to be wrong: it says "English (United Kingdom) "

avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 1 Dec 2014

"Location"s too are quite debatable, IMHO...

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 1 Dec 2014

See #5178 for explanation of the text

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avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 1 Dec 2014

Thanks for the link!

I didn't got that when installing a new language a new update server will appear in the list, that's why "English (United Kingdom)" sounded strange. Yet, now, with Italian installed I have a new "Accredited Joomla! Translations" Update Server but its Type is "Package" and not "Language"... But let's forget about all of this... just minor things! (and I know Nic enough for not wanting to put myself in a debate about this: I'm sure he's right! :smile: )

Have you seen my results for the "Fresh Install"? is that different from yours?

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 1 Dec 2014

Hmm, is it really a limited list which is displayed at the beginning, or is it the full list but with wrong sorting? The screenshots do not show this because the page limit is 20 and the number of pages is not shown.

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avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 1 Dec 2014
avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 1 Dec 2014

Hmm, at brianteeman's video the list is empty at the beginning. As far as I understood smanzi, he would be ok with this.

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avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 1 Dec 2014

@richard67 it is absolutely a partial list (not a sorting problem)
@brianteeman that's utterly strange... I don't know what to say... my first screenshot is just after having performed a fresh install (DB totally purged, configuration.php deleted, code synced with latest staging, performed installation) and having directly gone to the "Install Languages" page...
@richard67 (again) of course, it would be perfectly OK for me to have an empty list in the beginning

avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 1 Dec 2014

wait... I have a doubt that there could have been some remnant in /administrator/cache... let me check...

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 1 Dec 2014

Well, I have a 3.3.4-alpha, not a clean new install but from updates, and it behaves as shown in brianteeman's video, I just have checked the same procedure. It started with an empty list.

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avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 1 Dec 2014

3.4.0-alpha I meant ;-)

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avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 1 Dec 2014

No, sorry, I must confirm: fresh install, I have this:
capture1
capture2
capture3

My install is from latest GitHub code, with head at 90d0084 (@bakual #5275)
Cache directories are clean
DB tables all dropped

avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 1 Dec 2014

Can someone else please try and confirm I have a poltergeist in my system?

avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 1 Dec 2014

ehmm... staging branch, if this can matter...

avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 1 Dec 2014

... and if notice, this partial list is different from the one I got with the previous fresh install!!

avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 1 Dec 2014

:imp:

avatar infograf768
infograf768 - comment - 2 Dec 2014

Please test
#5284

I also added a Note there of what I think should be done to fully solve the issue.
I also see the issue of a disabled update site in the Update Manager and the quickicon lack of update announcement in this case.

avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 2 Dec 2014

Please see further debugging info: #5284 (comment)

avatar smanzi
smanzi - comment - 3 Dec 2014

Closing this as "paranormal issue".
See final comment in #5284 (comment)

avatar smanzi smanzi - close - 3 Dec 2014
avatar zero-24 zero-24 - close - 3 Dec 2014
avatar smanzi smanzi - change - 3 Dec 2014
Status New Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2014-12-03 17:15:05
avatar zero-24 zero-24 - change - 7 Jul 2015
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