Joomla 4.3.1, template 'Skylar_J4' from Joomla51 (Version 1.1.8)

I think the Skylar template is not the problem here as the template manager runs in the administrator (backend).

@dgrammatiko Does the ordering of the files and folders in the template manager somehow depend on the template's XML file? I don't think so, but I thought I ask you, maybe you know it better.

AFAIR the order is what comes out of the readdir php function. There shouldn’t be affected by anything in the xml file

AFAIR the order is what comes out of the readdir php function. There shouldn’t be affected by anything in the xml file

Yes, that's what I would think, too. It seems readdir doesn't necessarily work in alphabetical order. There is a StackOverflow topic about that, where someone recommends to use scandir instead: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/541510/php-readdir-not-returning-files-in-alphabetical-order .

@richard67 actually I was wrong, the output is what comes out from scandir:

Possible solution https://itecnote.com/tecnote/php-sort-directory-listing-using-recursivedirectoryiterator/

@richard67 actually I was wrong, the output is what comes out from scandir:

joomla-cms/administrator/components/com_templates/src/Model/TemplateModel.php

Line 412 in c201854

$dirFiles = scandir($dir);

Hmm, that's strange. Maybe we have to sort that somehow? I will check when I have more time.

I think it's the recursive part that breaks the order (or maybe not)

tried to reproduce the bug but couldn't confirm

@rdeutz Do you think my screenshot is a fake? I see the bug daily when looking into my template.

I changed the title of this issue because it still shows under J5.1:

@richard67 @dgrammatiko
This is not a severe issue, but a bit annoying. Could you pls check again?

What's your operating system of the server that this issue occurs?

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Systeminformationen

php: Linux sh16-23 5.15.0-73-generic #80-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 15 15:18:26 UTC 2023 x86_64
dbserver: mysql
dbversion: 8.0.33-0ubuntu0.20.04.1
dbcollation: utf8mb4_0900_ai_ci
dbconnectioncollation: utf8mb4_0900_ai_ci
dbconnectionencryption:
dbconnencryptsupported: true
phpversion: 8.3.6
server: Apache
sapi_name: cgi-fcgi
version: Joomla! 5.1.0 Stable [ Kudumisha ] 16-April-2024 16:00 GMT
compatpluginenabled: true
compatpluginparameters:
useragent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:125.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/125.0

On the server, browse /media/templates/site/j51_skylar/css to see how these files are listed.
If possible, install on a different server to see if it is reproducible.

just to rule something out can you p;ease retest with Joomla in English

@Quy

@Quy
I just tested a different website (but with the same template) on localhost via XAMPP, but I get exactly the identical issue:

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System Information

php: Windows NT DP3450 10.0 build 22631 (Windows 11) AMD64
dbserver: mysql
dbversion: 10.4.32-MariaDB
dbcollation: utf8mb4_general_ci
dbconnectioncollation: utf8mb4_general_ci
dbconnectionencryption:
dbconnencryptsupported: false
phpversion: 8.2.12
server: Apache/2.4.58 (Win64) OpenSSL/3.1.3 PHP/8.2.12
sapi_name: apache2handler
version: Joomla! 5.1.0 Stable [ Kudumisha ] 16-April-2024 16:00 GMT
compatpluginenabled: true
compatpluginparameters:
useragent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:125.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/125.0

can you confirm that you only see it with this template?

@brianteeman Yes, because it is the only one I use (apart from test sites with Cassiopeia). Should we try to involve Ciaran Walsh?

@dautrich what Brian asked was to try to open the cassiopeia files view and report if those files are displayed properly sorted.

I've set Cassiopeia to standard template for all files. Looking at the template files, they are properly ordered.

Having seen this, I also believe that the issue is something related to the Skylar template.

If you don't want to invest any more time in this, I'm going to close this issue.

If you don't want to invest any more time in this, I'm going to close this issue.

The problem is that no one has reproduced this and as the template youare using it is commercial we dont have access to reproduce it ourselves with that template

I found the issue and will prepare an pr in a couple of minutes.

Please test #43335 closing this.