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anibalsanchez
16 Nov 2021

Steps to reproduce the issue

By default, the WebAuthn Passwordless Login plugin is enabled by default. When there are no users using WebAuthn or any intention to use WebAuthn Passwordless.

The backend users are confused due to the double Login Buttons.

Expected result

One Login button to the Login action. Or, at least, disable the WebAuthn Passwordless Login plugin.

Actual result

Two Login buttons

System information (as much as possible)

Joomla 4.0.4

Additional comments

Workaround: manually disable WebAuthn Passwordless Login on new J4 installations.

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avatar HLeithner
HLeithner - comment - 16 Nov 2021

WebAuthn should be more visible and explain why to use it instead of hiding it. my2c

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joeforjoomla - comment - 16 Nov 2021

99% of users won't use WebAuthn. Showing the button by default in the backend login is simply confusing. It should be treated as the 2FA plugin, enabled only when needed.

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anibalsanchez - comment - 16 Nov 2021

I agree that WebAuthn is important. But, duplicating the Login action button is a UX error.


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anibalsanchez - comment - 16 Nov 2021

BTW: I'm a WebAuthn user and I'm used to the product, but this is the first time I found a duplicated Login button and a WebAuthn button ever.


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avatar Quy
Quy - comment - 16 Nov 2021

Duplicate #30905

avatar HLeithner
HLeithner - comment - 16 Nov 2021

BTW: I'm a WebAuthn user and I'm used to the product, but this is the first time I found a duplicated Login button and a WebAuthn button ever.

In my opinion the login process should be more "guided" like google, only presenting you the login possibilities your "username" allows, for this we need a multi step ajax login.

avatar anibalsanchez
anibalsanchez - comment - 16 Nov 2021

Duplicate #30905

The issue is an error. If you document the workaround and accept that the UX is right, then there is nothing else to say.

avatar simbus82
simbus82 - comment - 16 Nov 2021

Steps to reproduce the issue

By default, the WebAuthn Passwordless Login plugin is enabled by default. When there are no users using WebAuthn or any intention to use WebAuthn Passwordless.

The backend users are confused due to the double Login Buttons.

Expected result

One Login button to the Login action. Or, at least, disable the WebAuthn Passwordless Login plugin.

Totally agree.
As important as it is (I'm already using it on all j4 sites, with my smartphone and fingerprint ... super cool!), it can't be activated by default without a previous "info" that inform the admin user of what to expect when he do the first logging into the backend.
For me:

  • it should not be activated by default because it's not right to show the WebAuthn button on first use after Joomla installation, because no one has had the opportunity to set an authenticator in the backend yet.
  • it should be always hidden, even if active, in case none of all users have activated an authenticator.

PS: for UX best practice it is a mistake to show two buttons with the same visual impact: maybe we can use a different color.

In my opinion the login process should be more "guided" like google, only presenting you the login possibilities your "username" allows, for this we need a multi step ajax login.

Please... Not for an admin login page in an on-premise CMS.
A website is not an authentication provider like Google.
We already have a rather chaotic login screen, let's not add any more complications on the UX side!

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SamuelSmith1 - comment - 17 Nov 2021

 

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Quy - comment - 1 Nov 2024

See PR #44228

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