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avatar PhilETaylor
PhilETaylor
2 Feb 2021

Steps to reproduce the issue

Logged in as an editor.

When creating an article using frontend publishing, published AND unpublished tags are available in the selector.

This is exposing unpublished, possibly sensitive, tags to those that should not be able to see them.

Expected result

Only published tags are available to contributors of content on the front end.

Actual result

Unpublished and Published tags are shown, available to be selected.
Trashed and Archived Tags are not shown.

Screenshot 2021-02-02 at 21 51 45

Another Test Case that needs addressing.

Create a new Tag, set its access to SUPER ADMINS (and unpublished it for fun)

On frontend login as EDITOR level user, attempt to create a new contact (on the frontend) and you can see the tag that has a super admin level (and is unpublished)... that's an editor, seeing stuff that only super admins should see.

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brianteeman - comment - 2 Feb 2021

No different to the way that unpublished categories are available to be selected.

At the end of the day if you want users to create content on the front end there will always be cases like this. For me it is a desirable behaviour as I have users creating content in an unpublished category for me to review later and move to the live category.

Although I don't use tags myself I can see the same use case apply. There might even be a tag "for-review".

I do not agree with your opinion that this is a security issue nor that it is not desirable behaviour.

avatar PhilETaylor
PhilETaylor - comment - 2 Feb 2021

Yes I guessed you would disagree... Luckily the same way you disagreed for years about the "autocomplete" not being a security issue disclosing unpublished data, until I proved it was a huge issue, by pulling whole huge amounts of Personally Identifiable Information (IP addresses included) from unpublished content, of data from joomla.org and passing it to the JSST as proof.

So yeah...

If something is unpublished then it should be inaccessible from the frontend..

A tag, with a Super Admin level, and is unpublished, should never be being displayed to an Editor level user.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 2 Feb 2021

You must be thinking of someone else.

I'll go back to contributing instead of moaning

avatar PhilETaylor
PhilETaylor - comment - 2 Feb 2021

Keep the personal attacks coming Brian... and I'll just keep reporting you. I genuinely feel sorry for you, it must be so hard for you to allow others to actually contribute ....

avatar gostn
gostn - comment - 3 Feb 2021

Calling @richard67 as expert for personal attacks to decide if this is an personal attack or not.

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 3 Feb 2021

@gostn No, but it seems you are an expert in stalking.

avatar PhilETaylor
PhilETaylor - comment - 3 Feb 2021

And this is the toxic environment that Joomla provides its contributors... pathetic really. Really pathetic.

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 3 Feb 2021

@PhilETaylor It‘s not Joomla, it‘s just this guy stalking me. Sorry that I have answered him here, I did not want to hijack your issue.

avatar PhilETaylor
PhilETaylor - comment - 3 Feb 2021

We all have our stalkers. This project breeds, harbours and supports them.

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avatar HLeithner
HLeithner - comment - 3 Feb 2021

sorry phil for hijacking you topic,

@gostn we blocked you for 7 days because of repeated toxic behavior against at least one member.

avatar HLeithner
HLeithner - comment - 3 Feb 2021

@PhilETaylor you can reopen you issue if you wish.

About unpublished tags, the problem I see (also in the backend) if you hide unpublished tags from lower privileged users we would loose them if this uses saves an article that has already unpublished (or acl based) tags.

Preserving them could be a bit tricky and maybe also unexpected for the editor. The question is how would you define who can see them?

avatar PhilETaylor
PhilETaylor - comment - 3 Feb 2021

So you can quickly and easily ban somebody for seven days, but when Toxic Teeman continues his campaign of abuse, personal attacks, and discouraging contributions from others (not just towards me, but towards others and new contributors), he is actively harboured & supported, by the project leadership. Double standards much.

I don't pretend have all the answers for the issue reported. Feel free to reopen it if you like, you have that power, but as toxic Teeman has already shared his opinion, nobody else's voice or experience counts, apparently.

I can only tell you what the issue is and share the issue so that it has the widest audience so that it has the greatest chance of being resolved.

That is called contributing.

avatar gostn2
gostn2 - comment - 3 Feb 2021

I test joomla as gostn as you can see at "User Tracker Activity".
I'm the bad guy cause i critized team-members.
The easy solution "ban" is toxic in the long run.

avatar HLeithner
HLeithner - comment - 3 Feb 2021

For brian it's better to create a CoC or/and add him to you block list, (I should do the same since he attacked me too).

for the issue it self I don't see a "make everyone happy" solution... if someone else come up with something useful we can talk again about it.

avatar PhilETaylor
PhilETaylor - comment - 3 Feb 2021

Pleased to hear it's not just me he attacks then.

Don't make me laugh. The CoC process is null and void. Teeman is protected by those in leadership and when someone does have the balls to stand up to him he threatens legal action against the project. All documented. All facts. All provable.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 3 Feb 2021

Have to laugh at being accused of making personal attacks when simply stating that I disagree that something is a security issue (which never should be posted in public in the first place). I can't help it if you take is as a personal attack. The answer would have been the same to anyone.

@HLeithner I have?

avatar infograf768
infograf768 - comment - 3 Feb 2021

@PhilETaylor @HLeithner
I think Phil's issue has value.

Please Phil, re-create your issue.

I'm now locking this one as too much heated conversation

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