No Code Attached Yet J4 Issue bug
avatar anibalsanchez
anibalsanchez
31 May 2020

Steps to reproduce the issue

When you install Joomla, for instance connecting to a remote database or to a database container, there is an error to confirm the connection.

  • Warning
    You are trying to use a database host which is not on your local server. For security reasons, you need to verify the ownership of your web hosting account. Please read the documentation for more information.
    -Notice
    To confirm that you are the owner of this website please delete the file named "_JoomlaHkiGybMn4i8tCvmTm43vx.txt" we have created in the "installation" folder of your Joomla site. Then select "Install Joomla" to continue.

These warnings and notices are shown/ hidden at the top of the page, while we click on the "Joomla Installer >".

You click several times until you realize in the browse console that something is wrong and there are messages coming from the server. In the end, you discover the messages at the top of the page.

Expected result

The messages must be shown in the user view.

Actual result

The messages must be shown out of the user view. So, there is no way to discover what is happening.

System information (as much as possible)

Joomla Beta 1 and a remote database.

Additional comments

avatar anibalsanchez anibalsanchez - open - 31 May 2020
avatar joomla-cms-bot joomla-cms-bot - change - 31 May 2020
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avatar HLeithner HLeithner - change - 1 Jun 2020
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avatar HLeithner HLeithner - labeled - 1 Jun 2020
avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 1 Jun 2020

This is something that really bugs me and not just here. I believe what is needed is a "scroll to error" javascript. Perhaps something that looks for the presence of the element that is used for errors and if found on the page the focus is moved directly there. Sadly thats javascript so I dont have a clue how to achieve it

avatar anibalsanchez
anibalsanchez - comment - 1 Jun 2020

I think that the solution could be simpler, the messages can be shown below the action button.

In this way, the actions and the associated messages are located in the same location that the user attention.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 1 Jun 2020

That's what I tried on a site by moving the messages block below the component. But as all messages are displayed in the same block it caused issues elsewhere eg success messages on the contact form. So I ended up duplicating the messages at the top and bottom. I'm sure moving the focus would be better as that would work in all cases.

avatar rbuelund
rbuelund - comment - 6 Jun 2020

I vote for the moving focus aproach. But this is really important to fix - for many users this will be a time wasting issue not understanding why the site won't install - eg when not using localhost.


This comment was created with the J!Tracker Application at issues.joomla.org/tracker/joomla-cms/29325.

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