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avatar coolcat-creations
coolcat-creations
26 Apr 2020

What needs to be fixed

The modal save messages are really very distracting and as far I remember they also had a11y issues? I could not find an open issue about that but can we please go back to inline messages?

It will be very tedious in the daily workflow to always have the modal overlapping for example the "New" button.

Can we find a better solution?

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[4.0] RFC Atum template - Messages in modal
[4.0] RFC Atum template - Change modal Messages
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avatar zero-24
zero-24 - comment - 26 Apr 2020

I agree on that.

Here an proposal:

  • What about introducing a option in the "enque message" that the developer can switch between that message and such kind of messages:

image

For sure you should force error messages to the big error messages but success messages can be use smaller things.

What do you think.

avatar zero-24
zero-24 - comment - 26 Apr 2020

That message could disapper after X time, when specified by the developer

avatar Quy
Quy - comment - 26 Apr 2020

See PR #27213

avatar coolcat-creations
coolcat-creations - comment - 26 Apr 2020

Thank you for leading me to the PR, but it actually only makes the modal disapear after a while... I think the better solution would be either having it inline or not distracting at the bottom right side...

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brianteeman - comment - 26 Apr 2020

It would not be a good solution to have the messages in multiple places depending on the level of message and you absolutely want an error or warning to be distracting

avatar zero-24
zero-24 - comment - 26 Apr 2020

It would not be a good solution to have the messages in multiple places

hmm what would be your suggestion to that?

avatar PhocaCz
PhocaCz - comment - 26 Apr 2020

Hi,

I like the way Gantry 5 goes. It just displays the message in the bottom right area and it will be hidden in a few seconds.

Gantry5 Message

Messages displayed in the bottom right area do not delay you at work and do not bind you anyway. Mostly there is nothing to do in the bottom right area.

Ok, if hiding a message could be a problem, e.g. regarding a11y, then messages should be displayed the same way like in Joomla! 3 because the current display, where part of the text and part of the buttons are hidden, definitely violates more rules.

Standard Message

Jan

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 26 Apr 2020

Messages displayed in the bottom right area do not delay you at work

That's fine for a success but not for an error. When its an error it must be displayed prominently.

avatar zero-24
zero-24 - comment - 26 Apr 2020

Yes for that reason i proposed a switch in the inject method so you can have a different display when it is an error or success message

avatar mbabker
mbabker - comment - 26 Apr 2020

Please do not introduce conditional styling based on the message level. That’s just more confusion in the end.

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avatar infograf768
infograf768 - comment - 26 Apr 2020

Imho, we should go back to the same behavior as in 3.x
Inline on top

avatar PhocaCz
PhocaCz - comment - 26 Apr 2020

So, is there anything against using the same style like in Joomla! 3? (standard block at the top)

avatar richard67
richard67 - comment - 26 Apr 2020

+1 from me for same style as in Joomla! 3 (standard block at the top).

avatar coolcat-creations
coolcat-creations - comment - 26 Apr 2020

+1 for J3 Style

avatar ReLater
ReLater - comment - 26 Apr 2020

Not the first time I say:
+1 for J3 Style

avatar PhocaCz
PhocaCz - comment - 26 Apr 2020

J4 messages

avatar ChristineWk
ChristineWk - comment - 26 Apr 2020

I also don't like these overlapping messages:

pr28810
pr28810_warning
OK, the Alert messages in red of course - don't have at the moment :-)

@PhocaCz Jan
it's much better, but as @zero-24 says: ... success messages can be use smaller things.

avatar coolcat-creations
coolcat-creations - comment - 27 Apr 2020

What do we need to go back to J3 Style?

avatar ciar4n
ciar4n - comment - 27 Apr 2020

PR created... #28824

avatar zero-24
zero-24 - comment - 27 Apr 2020

Thanks. Closing here so we can test the PR. Thanks @ciar4n

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