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avatar rinka88
rinka88
4 Mar 2020

Dear developers! Since there has recently been a debate about the admin panel of Atum or Khonsu.
And after a long argument, the Honxu developers closed the topic until next time.
But there were people who said: that you can implement the best sides of Khonsu in Atum. And for this I suggest viewing the topic:
Creation of material on Joomla4:
This is how it looks in Atum:
Atum

And so in Khonsu:
Khonsu

I think the result is on the face. In fulfillment of Khonsu, I think it looks well designed and modern. All the necessary tabs are rendered to the right and convenient for filling (tabs). And if this is implemented, then I think not much to change the Atum code. And that would get a good response from the community.
What do you think? can this be realized in Atum?
@angieradtke
I am writing through google translate

avatar rinka88 rinka88 - open - 4 Mar 2020
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avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 4 Mar 2020

Those tabs are not usable at all

avatar rinka88
rinka88 - comment - 4 Mar 2020

But this does not mean that you can’t do this and there are people who use these tabs. and by design I think it will look good.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 4 Mar 2020

If they are not usable then it doesnt matter how pretty it is

avatar simbus82
simbus82 - comment - 4 Mar 2020

If they are not usable then it doesnt matter how pretty it is

I think it is due an explanation of why that solution is not usable. I ask it to fill my ignorance about these UI elements (tabs vs accordion).
PS: i hate all of these solutions, if they are used for the frontend of a website.

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 4 Mar 2020

ignoring the fact that they are not accessible or semantic the usability sucks - just try it and see what a frustrating experience it is

images

avatar simbus82
simbus82 - comment - 4 Mar 2020

Thanks @brianteeman. With a bigger resolution monitor the bad usability was less noticeable.
As i said, i don't like accordions...

avatar ReLater
ReLater - comment - 4 Mar 2020

No accordions, please!

avatar Sulpher
Sulpher - comment - 4 Mar 2020

Someone started a good topic! :-)
Well, since Khonsu developers decided to freeze the project until better times (which means the death of the project in the web world where technologies developing too quickly), there are supposedly 2 ways to go:

  1. New enthusiasts can fork the current Khonsu version (if someone wants) and continue developing it according to public debates on UX/UI improvements.
  2. Atum authors can examine Khonsu and take the best ideas for further implementation.

What does the community think?

avatar jwaisner jwaisner - change - 4 Mar 2020
Status New Discussion
Build staging 4.0-dev
avatar jwaisner jwaisner - change - 4 Mar 2020
Category Administration UI/UX
avatar 200MPHMEDIA
200MPHMEDIA - comment - 8 Mar 2020

Some improvements are noted, but there are some changes that run counter to norm. The SAVE buttons being relocated to the right is one of those mistakes. Why make users re-direct their "save" habits of going up and left, to up and right. This template needs a complete "user usage autopsy" before make available as an "ALTERNATIVE BACK-END," not the default.


This comment was created with the J!Tracker Application at issues.joomla.org/tracker/joomla-cms/28224.

avatar simbus82
simbus82 - comment - 8 Mar 2020

Some improvements are noted, but there are some changes that run counter to norm. The SAVE buttons being relocated to the right is one of those mistakes. Why make users re-direct their "save" habits of going up and left, to up and right. This template needs a complete "user usage autopsy" before make available as an "ALTERNATIVE BACK-END," not the default.

This comment was created with the J!Tracker Application at issues.joomla.org/tracker/joomla-cms/28224.

Wrong example... The relocation of Save Button is one of the best things made in that backend.
I'm using tons of productivity, management and creativity, CMS web apps every day and only Joomla has the save on the left...

avatar sanek4life
sanek4life - comment - 8 Mar 2020

Well, since Khonsu developers decided to freeze the project until better times

I think this could help for anyone who wants to make an alternative template. Look at my issue - #28167

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brianteeman - comment - 31 Aug 2022

Not sure if there is any value in keeping this issue open. Perhaps move it to discussions or close?

avatar Hackwar Hackwar - change - 21 Feb 2023
Status Discussion Closed
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avatar Hackwar Hackwar - close - 21 Feb 2023
avatar Hackwar
Hackwar - comment - 21 Feb 2023

Khonsu has not been adopted in Joomla and Joomla 4 has since been released without these changes. We are not going to change the UI this drastically in a minor version. I'm going to close this issue.

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