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3rd party is derogatory
Even if I don't think it's derogatory. Non-core sounds better for me.
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How is it derogatory? It's an industry standard term for products the manufacturer doesn't make that work with their product(s).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_source
"Non-core" is really unreadable and unlistenable... it is also a term related to "business" and "assets management", rarely used in information technology.
"3rd-party" is the right and standard definition.
Maybe we can use the term "Add-on Extensions" or "Additional Extensions"
I don’t care for the module name as it can be modified, but it is clear we will not use it for the filter in French as « Extensions ne faisant pas partie du noyau » would be ridiculously long. « Extensions tierces » not only is not derogatory at all but corresponds exactly to what these are.
3rd party is also not accurate as extensions by joomla would be inn the same list
patchtester, weblinks, all language packs are all non-core - ie they do not ship with the core of joomla. but they are definitely not 3rd party. Do what you want in your translations but on english it is correct
Language packs are 3rd party, whatever you decide unilaterally.
Anything which is not present in libraries/src/Extension/ExtensionHelper.php
is 3rd party as it is filtered this way in Extensions=> Manage.
And yes, we certainly will do what we think is right for our languages.
It seems though that I am not the only one to consider the expression Non-core
as incorrect.
@simbus82 is totally right.
Do what you want in your translations but on english it is correct
No, in your MIND it's correct. For 14yrs its been the defacto verbage and now suddenly it's derogatory?
Are we building Joomla for developer/coders? or are we building for real people?
As coders our brains don't work the way everyone else's does. We see patterns, processes issues, just as easily as breathing.
This is NOT the way the majority of people are taught to think.
I have tested this item
title changed from "3rd Party" to "non-core Extensions"
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We have tested this patch on https://start.joomlapbf.com/joomla42/
The Quick Icon on the dashboard does not change.
We have installed Akeeba Backup via System > Install Extensions > [Upload Extension]
and the Dashboard looks like this:
This filter option in Extension is ok, but the Quick Icon in Dashboard has not changed.
Tested unsuccessful.
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Quick Item Title is still "3rd Party".
I have tested this item
After executing the SQL query in PHPmyadmin the test was successful
Might as well say extension extensions
Status | Pending | ⇒ | Closed |
Closed_Date | 0000-00-00 00:00:00 | ⇒ | 2019-10-25 23:05:15 |
Closed_By | ⇒ | brianteeman |
cant be bothered - people seem to be happy with inconsistency
Why do you say that brian? Very few designers & end users have any idea what a "core" is but all understand "3rd party"