I have tested this item ✅ successfully on f681118

I have marked it as a success because it does what it says.

BUT it has several issues

1. how are you going to provide access to some of the core components that are not in the menu db table such as post installation messages
2. any menu item that has an add new is no longer a link eg there are no links to the list of all articles menus

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I have marked it as a success because it does what it says.

BUT it has several issues

1. how are you going to provide access to some of the core components that are not in the menu db table such as post installation messages
2. any menu item that has an add new is no longer a link eg there are no links to the list of all articles

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@brianteeman agree completely with you.
I did the renaming because we had the presets since a long time and I always had this feeling "This here is modern, so Joomla ist the old-fashined one" .
But now the alternate preset must be made with care and give good alternative. This was not in scope.

I'm not sure if with the changes made to make the menus for the template if it's going to be possible

This is a part 1 of the alternate preset.
I am now looking at the remaining issues.

Good luck with that

how are you going to provide access to some of the core components that are not in the menu db table such as post installation messages

I can get them eaasily as well as J update.

any menu item that has an add new is no longer a link eg there are no links to the list of all menus

Not sure I understand this one.
List of all menus as well as all menu items is already present and one can add new for Menus.

Can you point to me the items that really need to be looked at.

We can also add back where necessary what was deleted by someone in J4.
For example below for New user
Old way

or with a quicktask

@chmst
Please add your test OK so that we get it merged and I go on improving this alternate.

Can you point to me the items that really need to be looked at.

Not at my PC but from memory it was not possible to list all menus.

Not at my PC but from memory it was not possible to list all menus.

It does already list all menus as is.

It does already list all menus as is.

Not menu items - menus
index.php?option=com_menus&view=menus

Understood now what you mean.
Will add quicktasks for all places where necessary in Part2 as soon as this one is merged.

Decided to complete the alternate instead of waiting for another PR.
It should now provide all possible navigation.
@chmst @brianteeman

please test again

Removing the add new to the menus solved that problem

I now see an issue with the selected menu not being highlighted (and or expanded) when you open a link from the dashboard eg thw templates quickicon

Removing the add new to the menus solved that problem

I now see an issue with the selected menu not being highlighted (and or expanded) when you open a link from the dashboard eg thw templates quickicon

I now see an issue with the selected menu not being highlighted (and or expanded) when you open a link from the dashboard eg thw templates quickicon

Looks OK here:

Works also fine for Joomlaupdate etc.

If you speak about the Templates in the Site submenu module, i.e

Then you are correct. Issue comes from the url.
The icon uses the client
administrator/index.php?option=com_templates&client_id=0
while the menu item does not.
The issue is easy to solve.
Correcting now.

Changed to use similar urls for Modules and templates styles.

I see that we also have to do something similar for Users and articles categories but the links used for that last one is weird
index.php?option=com_categories
I think it should be
index.php?option=com_categories&extension=com_content

I will try to find out where in code this is used.
EDIT:
It is used in Quickiconhelper. Weird.

Ok, now when clicking a quickicon, the corresponding menu item should be hightlighted/expanded when using the alternate.xml.
I had to correct a totally wrong link for the Quickicon Menu Items and modified the Quickicon Article Categories.

Important Note

I found out that it was also NOT the case when using the default.xml preset as links may be different. Is mostly missing the view in quickicon links.
Therefore, another PR should be done where we make sure that the links are normalized in the 3 cases as this PR does not concern modern.xml:

• modern.xml
• alternate.xml
• QuickiconHelper.php

This can be tested when showing ALL quickicons in the Site quickicon module and testing them one after the other:

Thanks!

OK. Will now create another PR to normalise the urls.