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avatar Sandra97
Sandra97
11 Sep 2018

When using the backend in French, a user has the option to display the help screens from an unofficial property, help.joomla.fr, instead of help.joomla.org.

It used to make totally sense as, at that time, the official documentation was available in English only.

Since then, a multilingual system has been implemented on docs.joomla.org.
Furthermore, it seems that help.joomla.fr is not updated anymore, displaying help screens for versions between 3.1.1 and 3.2.0, and so many help screens don’t even exist.

Without mentioning that docs.joomla.org is an open property where anyone can contribute, which is not the case of help.joomla.fr

Of course, all JDocs help screens are not yet translated into French, and there’s still lot of work to do, but having JDocs as the only source for help screens could allow the community to translate one and only source.

A last thing, as JDocs help screens are automatically displayed in the language set up for your backend, this option becomes even more obsolete.

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brianteeman - comment - 11 Sep 2018

If it is not up to date then it should be removed.

If french is the only language that ever provided a help server then the entire option should be removed

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Category Documentation UI/UX
avatar alikon
alikon - comment - 11 Sep 2018

screenshot from 2018-09-11 20-16-30

it's temporary or it has been decided already to switch on docs.joomla.org ?

avatar mbabker
mbabker - comment - 11 Sep 2018

The public facing help.joomla.org domain has been that way for quite some time (because the public facing version of the site was in essence 1.0 and early 1.5 documentation, the site was abandoned).

The help screen proxy (served via help.joomla.org/proxy is not going anywhere anytime soon (and is really just a wrapper around docs.joomla.org to read items out of the Mediawiki API and do some formatting to display those in the iframed context the screens are rendered in).

avatar mbabker
mbabker - comment - 11 Sep 2018

(Long and short help.joomla.org these days is an internal domain, not something we're directing the public to (directly), if someone wants to create content for that subdomain though to replace the notice https://github.com/joomla/help.joomla.org is where to send pull requests)

avatar alikon
alikon - comment - 11 Sep 2018

thanks for the explanation
so the silly #22133 simply remove the .fr

avatar franz-wohlkoenig franz-wohlkoenig - change - 12 Sep 2018
Status Discussion Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2018-09-12 04:49:29
Closed_By franz-wohlkoenig
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franz-wohlkoenig - comment - 12 Sep 2018

closed as having Pull Request #22133

avatar infograf768
infograf768 - comment - 12 Sep 2018

See my comment here
#22133 (comment)

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