J4 Issue ?
avatar chmst
chmst
2 Sep 2018

In List views, as for example com_content, or com_users, many buttons are without function, for example batch, trash.... They are somehow opaque which means disabled and cannot be clicked.
A new user without knowledge of Joomla! does not know that he must "activate" these buttons by marking one or more checkboxes. There is no hint, no information.

The behaviour in J! 3.8 is much better and self explaining: If the user clicks a button, he gets the Information that at least one item must be marked. Now the user must detect this by chance.

screen shot 2018-09-02 at 18 54 09

avatar chmst chmst - open - 2 Sep 2018
avatar joomla-cms-bot joomla-cms-bot - labeled - 2 Sep 2018
avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 2 Sep 2018

It is a very common ux pattern.
It would be better if the buttons were not there at all until they were active but despite being an even more common ux pattern every attempt at progressive disclosure is blocked

avatar chmst chmst - change - 2 Sep 2018
The description was changed
avatar chmst chmst - edited - 2 Sep 2018
avatar ggppdk
ggppdk - comment - 2 Sep 2018

Furthermore to what said above already,

the toolbar continuesly looks like washed up "whitened", i don't know a better word to describe it
and i find this a little tiresome / ugly, but this is just my personal opinion

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 2 Sep 2018

Also please remember that the template design calls for all the action buttons to be grouped into one dropdown select but this is on hold because workflows broke everything

avatar brianteeman brianteeman - change - 2 Sep 2018
Labels Added: J4 Issue
avatar brianteeman brianteeman - labeled - 2 Sep 2018
avatar franz-wohlkoenig franz-wohlkoenig - change - 3 Sep 2018
Status New Discussion
avatar franz-wohlkoenig franz-wohlkoenig - change - 2 Apr 2019
Status Discussion Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2019-04-02 06:24:45
Closed_By franz-wohlkoenig
avatar joomla-cms-bot joomla-cms-bot - change - 2 Apr 2019
Closed_By franz-wohlkoenig joomla-cms-bot
avatar joomla-cms-bot joomla-cms-bot - close - 2 Apr 2019
avatar joomla-cms-bot
joomla-cms-bot - comment - 2 Apr 2019
avatar franz-wohlkoenig
franz-wohlkoenig - comment - 2 Apr 2019

Issue resolved, so closed. Please reopen if i'm wrong.

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