(Your comment about links is very valid and is something that needs to be addressed but its a global issue and not specific to here)

In future could you please add before and after images. It really helps

I believe this file is not part of this PR administrator/modules/mod_logged/tmpl/default.php

@brianteeman sorry, this shold be only one small PR for view menus. Unfortnately, old commits are included here. How can I remove them?

I believe this file is not part of this PR administrator/modules/mod_logged/tmpl/default.php

I have now force pushed only the changes that should be applied here so the mod_logged change is gone now :)

Thank you very much, @zero-24

I've removed the reference to accessibility. This is another subject as @brianteeman said

Just a thought but how about only displaying the Menu Name and thee two icons (edit menu and edit menu items) and not displaying the "unique name". Is there any value to displaying that?

I am testing different use cases. So now I have three menus with different ACL. They have the same name but different unique names.

Here the unique name is necessary.

I am not sure you would ever do that in the real world as can be seen by the resulting problem with the select in the menu items dropdown. In your use case I would probably be using the module title as "Information" and the menu name as "information members" etc

You are right. The whole concept with menu names seems to be "old". Them menu name itself appears for example in the menu selection and there it makes problems as I cannot see which menu to select. So indeed it wold be sufficient to require unique names for menus.

Removing the unique name completely is very tempting :) I'll try - but it has impact on some views/models and the database.

The same problem with Categories btw.

Now it looks like this, following the poposal of @brianteeman

Against the old view:

@chmst
Looks like there is now only an .ini diff in this PR.

May I suggest an improvement vs your screencapture?

1. As we are in the Menu Manager, the first icon should concern the Menu, not the menu items.
2. It would clarify all if we have a special column with a heading for Menu Items.

Something like (as I just modified your screenshot, the columns width is not right):

Move the first icon inside the Title column next to the title to be consistent elsewhere.

Change 15 to 8 here: https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/pull/20787/files#diff-ac5c27b1126f13d2a16788b463aca6fbL79

@chmst can you please resolve the conflicts and address the issues raised by @Quy and then we can get this tested and merged

Set to "closed" on behalf of @franz-wohlkoenig by The JTracker Application at issues.joomla.org/joomla-cms/20787

closed as stated by @chmst at #22112