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avatar petmug
petmug
31 Jan 2018

Steps to reproduce the issue

I recently updated to joomla 3.8.4 from 3.8.3.

This affected the urls that were linked recently from around six months ago. The old urls same way generated are still okay..

Expected result

http://www.researchtopichelp.net/2-topic-help/18-dba-new-research-ideas

Actual result

http://www.researchtopichelp.net/component/content/article/2-topic-help/18-dba-new-research-ideas

System information (as much as possible)

joomla 3.8.4 updated yesterday

Additional comments

the addition of "/component/content/article" is the issue.

Please any help urgently before i get lots of 404 pages

Thanks

avatar petmug petmug - open - 31 Jan 2018
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OctavianC - comment - 31 Jan 2018

Please see #19497 (it's a long read) and could you test if #19498 solves your issue?

avatar petmug
petmug - comment - 31 Jan 2018

I did that and i get a url with

"menu-alias" instead of the "/component/content/article"

That still creates a new link that is not resolving my issue... then

  1. why is it that the old article urls not affected?/
  2. If I have to have all new URls then my old URLs that are indexed will be lost and that will hurt my SEO
  3. Is there a way I can retain my old urlS AS THEY WERE?
    Thanks
avatar csthomas
csthomas - comment - 31 Jan 2018

You can create (instead "menu-alias") menu item "Category Blog" or "Category List" for your category "topic help" with alias "2-topic-help".

avatar petmug
petmug - comment - 31 Jan 2018

Hi, thanks.. that resolves the articles in the category topic help, how about the articles in the other categories, or i repeat the same procedure and use the respective category alias as well..
Last question, will the old urls at some point start getting affected?
Thanks for your help.

avatar csthomas
csthomas - comment - 31 Jan 2018

Usual folks do not create a menu item for category with alias like "2-topic-help" but only "topic-help".
But for you this is probably not a solution.

If you have more top categories without any menu item then the simplest way is to repeat the procedure.

avatar petmug
petmug - comment - 31 Jan 2018

let me deal, if i face any issues I will contact... I just dread future updates that would mess all this.. I just want to retain my urls TO AVOID hurting SEO..

Thanks alot..

avatar franz-wohlkoenig franz-wohlkoenig - change - 1 Feb 2018
Status New Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2018-02-01 06:30:06
Closed_By franz-wohlkoenig
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franz-wohlkoenig - comment - 1 Feb 2018

closed as Issue solved; it can always reopened if needed.


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franz-wohlkoenig - comment - 1 Feb 2018

closed as Issue solved; it can always reopened if needed.


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avatar petmug
petmug - comment - 1 Feb 2018

Hello, the trick is working for articles under categories but not those under subcategories.
Am stuck

avatar petmug
petmug - comment - 1 Feb 2018

Is there no remedy for this issue or it means we just have to get new structured urls...

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Status Closed New
Closed_Date 2018-02-01 06:30:06
Closed_By franz-wohlkoenig
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joomla-cms-bot - comment - 1 Feb 2018
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franz-wohlkoenig - comment - 1 Feb 2018

reopened as stated above.


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avatar franz-wohlkoenig franz-wohlkoenig - change - 1 Feb 2018
Status New Discussion
avatar franz-wohlkoenig franz-wohlkoenig - change - 1 Feb 2018
Category Router / SEF
avatar csthomas
csthomas - comment - 1 Feb 2018

You can use component redirect in joomla or you can add a redirect command in .htaccess file.

Is there no remedy for this issue or it means we just have to get new structured urls...

In 3.8.4 there is a "new structured urls", which is correct, but they are different that links from 3.8.3.

In the next version 3.8.5 this changes will be (in 99%) reverted
and IMO Joomla will have to live longer with incorrect (from the technical point of view) generated links (as before 3.8.3).

avatar petmug
petmug - comment - 1 Feb 2018

I kindly need your help with the kind of redirect command that I can add in .htaccess file.
As I wait for 3.8.5 release.


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avatar petmug
petmug - comment - 1 Feb 2018

and the redirect command that can handle all urls and remove the ""/component/content/article" part in the new redirected URLs..


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avatar joomdonation
joomdonation - comment - 1 Feb 2018

@csthomas Is the PR #19512 solve this issue, too? If Yes, I think @petmug can apply that PR using com_patchtester instead of waiting for 3.8.5

avatar csthomas
csthomas - comment - 1 Feb 2018

Is the PR #19512 solve this issue, too?

Yes, it may be the simplest way.

avatar csthomas
csthomas - comment - 1 Feb 2018

General advice:

For each article in the category tree, where neither (category) has its own menu item, and the article
does not have its own menu item, there may always be a problem with positioning and duplicate URLs.

avatar petmug
petmug - comment - 1 Feb 2018

I totally agree on your advice above; Infact I started seeing the effect months ago and bought some extensions.. what is then the long term best suggestion.. for consideration.


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avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 3 Feb 2018

Closed as the routing changes have been reverted for 3.8.5 with #19512

avatar brianteeman brianteeman - change - 3 Feb 2018
Status Discussion Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2018-02-03 17:16:38
Closed_By brianteeman
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avatar petmug
petmug - comment - 19 Feb 2018

Hello, I am, back again with some observation. I created menu items for my categories (category list) under which my articles are grouped. (meaning each article has a menu item id of the category.
I used the modern routing option in articles integration option..

This is my challenge, any link I anchor or link up now is showing okay e.g
Link a) https://www.petrianeditingservice.co.uk/capstone-correction/review-assistants

but those links that were existing never are showing a new structure UNLESS i un-link and link them again...

they look like
Link b) https://www.petrianeditingservice.co.uk/?view=article&id=46:review-assistants

Link a and b are same article, one is showing in some pages and the other in others...

What should I do to correct this?
Any automatic way to update the urls rather that manual un-linking and re-linking?

Peter

avatar petmug
petmug - comment - 19 Feb 2018

with further research

old url are
index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48:editing-helpers&catid=17**:research-proposal&Itemid=101**

New ones are like...
index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48:editing-helpers&catid=17

Is there a way I can automatically update and remove the :research-proposal&Itemid=101 which is the homepage item it + alias on all the older links..

Peter

avatar franz-wohlkoenig
franz-wohlkoenig - comment - 19 Feb 2018

@petmug please ask help on the forums. This repository concerns in first Place Joomla-Core coding, thanks.

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