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avatar DPGiran
DPGiran
1 Oct 2017

Steps to reproduce the issue

I think that this problem also exists in versions before 3!
Look at the link below :
https://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/extension/site-management/sef/sh404sef/

Expected result

Now, if you change the group and the category in the above link, you will have to go to page 404.
But it is not...

Actual result

As described above, I will continue to change the group and category link above.

https://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/extension/news-display/images/sh404sef/

You will see again that the page related with the extension will appear !!!???

System information (as much as possible)

joomla 3.8

Additional comments

This is a very serious and even dangerous problem that has a negative effect on SEO.

Thanks
R.gholamrezaei

avatar DPGiran DPGiran - open - 1 Oct 2017
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jeckodevelopment - comment - 1 Oct 2017

Hi @DPGiran , is this a JED (Joomla! Extensions Directory) issue?

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brianteeman - comment - 1 Oct 2017

the JED uses a custom component so its not the best example

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DPGiran - comment - 1 Oct 2017

Hi !

Exactly not!

This problem is related to the way Joomla addresses.

This problem exists on all Joomla sites.

I used the Joomla site to better explain the bug.

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Hi @DPGiran https://github.com/dpgiran , is this a JED (Joomla! Extensions Directory) issue?


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mbabker - comment - 1 Oct 2017

Much of routing is handled at the component level, so as stated the JED isn't the best example because it is a custom component.

If you really want to use a Joomla site to demonstrate your point, you are better off using pages rendered by com_content. The news areas on www.joomla.org, community.joomla.org, and developer.joomla.org use com_content.

Even with the issues confirmed, there are only so many fixes that can be made in the library router APIs. Many fixes are still component level and can't be fixed by core for all extensions.

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brianteeman - comment - 1 Oct 2017

It is not a problem because although those links might work Joomla will never generate them so links to them dont exist.

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DPGiran - comment - 1 Oct 2017

Can you explain why they are on the sitemap?

Does this not mean that Joomla has created these links?

If not, why is it coming?

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It is not a problem because although those links might work Joomla will never generate them so links to them dont exist.


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brianteeman - comment - 1 Oct 2017

What sitemap?

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Category Router / SEF
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DPGiran - comment - 2 Oct 2017

My friend will reply you soon …

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tonypartridge - comment - 4 Oct 2017

Joomla! Core doesn’t have a sitemap. So sounds like an issue with a 3rd party component.

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franz-wohlkoenig - comment - 5 Oct 2017

closed as no Core-Issue. Issue can always be reopened.


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DPGiran - comment - 6 Oct 2017

hi friends !

I'm sorry to reply late, my right hand was damaged.

When did I say that Joomla is producing a sitemap?

I transferred the main problem to you.

In my opinion, this is a very important problem to be solved.

If you do not find it difficult

So answer my questions

Why create a category to create content?

When we create separate category, why are the categories linked together?

With these interpretations, this is not a problem?

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brianteeman - comment - 6 Oct 2017

you said

Can you explain why they are on the sitemap?

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DPGiran - comment - 6 Oct 2017

Let me answer you tomorrow…

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DPGiran - comment - 8 Oct 2017

Hello !
I almost looked at the JED sitemap and did not see two similar links
Or a file that has several different links.
And I've come to the conclusion that this happens in some components.

With these interpretations, there is still a problem that I mentioned to you in the first post.

In response to our colleague “ mbabker ”
I must say :
I reviewed the main site of Joomla! For the sake of you and again it was the same problem
In the first post I also said that there is a problem on all Joomla sites.

example for com_content:

main link release joomla 3.8.1 :

https://www.joomla.org/announcements/release-news/5715-joomla-3-8-1-release.html

now , By changing the category, Joomla! 3.8.1 release link will be displayed again

https://www.joomla.org/announcements/about-joomla/5715-joomla-3-8-1-release.html

or :

https://www.joomla.org/about-joomla/release-news/5715-joomla-3-8-1-release.html

Do you think this is not a problem ?????

at the end

You still did not answer my questions as I asked above!

  1. Why create a category to create content? 
    
  2.   When we create separate category, why are the categories linked together?
    

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brianteeman - comment - 8 Oct 2017

As stated before - it is not a problem that you can access the content by entering the url manually as Joomla will not automatically generate those links.

For all your other questions please use the forum https://forum.joomla.org

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DPGiran - comment - 8 Oct 2017

ok !
You are right.

But I can not understand this,
because Not normal
You do not see such a case in the other CMS,

You still did not answer my questions as I asked above!

  1. Why create a category to create content?
    
  2. When we create separate category, why are the categories linked together?
    

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