I raised this a long time ago - and I was told to shut up, this is how it was designed, and this is how it will stay because the developers of those features totally disregarded the versioning system in their architecture and therefore no one can be bothered to re-architecture the features so that they can be versioned...

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I think tags and versioning will be re-architectured for J4. Maybe it's possible then. For J3 and the way those features work it's just not possible to do as far as I can imagine. If you have an idea, feel free to share ?

It's a pity we have to wait for J4 for a more integrated solution.

Tags and custom fields are now completely ignored for the version control.
The same thing could be said for the lists parameters and the custom fields.

I feel we have much too separated great tools (articles, tags, fields) at our disposal.

thanks

cyril

Tags and custom fields are now completely ignored for the version control.

I feel we have much too separated great tools (articles, tags, fields) at our disposal.

Actually I think fields is integrated fine, the issue is that the version feature works from the table class and thus can only version control the properties of that class. Since fields a re processed outside of that table class (which is fine), it doesn't get version controlled. The same issue actually exists for extensions which store an item form into multiple tables. It's a limitation of the current version feature.

I agree with you. From a webmaster point of view, whether it comes from the control version or the tag implementation, we feel we are lacking something.

when you change a tag or a custom field in an article you expect it generates a new version

I think tags and versioning will be re-architectured for J4.

No evidence for that statement.

Too many people suggesting that Joomla 4 will solve everyones hopes and dreams.

No evidence for that statement.

Yep, no evidence, but I saw two new plugins "taggable" and "versionable" in a new plugin group "behaviour" and the observer classes are gone. This made me believe something changed (and then "hope" started).

What changed is the observable pattern in JTable being replaced with "regular" plugin events. IIRC pretty much everything that didn't have the "normal" event dispatching setup (i.e. JEditor) has been updated to use our (now) singular event dispatcher and plugins.

Hi
Do we have a clearer view now of what could be expected in J4 regarding the tags / custom fields modifications and version control ?

thanks

Not that I'm aware of. And as long as nobody takes up the work to rewrite the version history, nothing will change.

please change label to J4

@HLeithner @bembelimen @nibra Reading the comments above it sounds like it would need considerable work to achieve this (good idea) and perhaps this is something for j5 OR something you explicitly state will not happen at all.

Versioning for tags and custom fields will come eventually. Yet again something someone has to dive into, but what also isn't trivial to do. Changing label from J3 to J4.