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avatar cedricwalter
cedricwalter
10 Jan 2017

Just found that wordpress offer a sitemap plugins out of the box, is there any interest for Joomla to have also one? i forked XMAP, and was asking myself if it would not make sense to try to meet Joomla quality code standard for a future inclusion in the CMS....

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avatar brianpeat
brianpeat - comment - 10 Jan 2017

I personally just keep an active subscription to JSiteMap Pro, but I can see it being beneficial. It would have to be well thought out as that sort of thing can get complicated. I mean JSite Map has a bunch of source options (including 3rd party), so you have menus, content, all the core components, etc.

avatar Bakual
Bakual - comment - 10 Jan 2017

I think OSMap is more or less the successor of XMap

I am always a bit undecided when it comes to including a feature into core which is available using 3rd party extensions. I usually think if it's already possible to install such an extension when needed, why does it have to be in core?

avatar andrepereiradasilva
andrepereiradasilva - comment - 10 Jan 2017

just my 2 cents. a sitemap nowadays is part of any site, if a site does not have it, it should.
if is part of any site shouldn't joomla have it in the core. i see more use for it than com_banners for instance.

avatar mbabker
mbabker - comment - 10 Jan 2017

WordPress doesn't offer a sitemap in the core distro, the functionality is available as a plugin (the same as installing a component in Joomla). So by that comparison the two platforms since everyone loves to compare them even though they are in the same market space by name only are on a level playing field.

As for adding one to core, does the core package that gets built and shipped from this repository really need every possible tool one might need for a website to be functional "out-of-the-box"? This is a feature that is rightfully not in core. Same with ecommerce, CCK, and a plethora of other borderline enterprise level features (since people seem insistent on keeping Joomla in the low- to just-below-medium- website size market space).

Joomla hasn't done anything good for architecture or user experience in years. I honestly think the code needs a good cleaning before looking at any more features. There is a lot of stuff that is either inconsistent or just doesn't work well. Especially since a lot of the "major" code based stuff has been received so poorly and has been an architectural nightmare to deal with (multi-database support, tags, Smart Search, the UCM framework, routing has been controversial to some and taken an excessive amount of time for review/merge and some still say it's not production suitable, now there have a modified build of DPFields in core and still in a state of flux...).

avatar dgt41
dgt41 - comment - 10 Jan 2017

I am on the lean Joomla! side

avatar andrepereiradasilva
andrepereiradasilva - comment - 10 Jan 2017

i understand and agree with you michael, not now, clean joomla first.
but i still think sitemap (xml and html) is a essencial funcionality of sites nowadays.

avatar Bakual
Bakual - comment - 10 Jan 2017

ut i still think sitemap (xml and html) is a essencial funcionality of sites nowadays.

Actually it's not needed at all for most sites. Google does a nice job indexing the site without it.
If you ask Google (https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/156184?hl=en), they say you need a sitemap if

  • site is really large
  • site has large archive that isn't well linked
  • site is new
  • sitemap offers additional information (which usually isn't the case for automatical created sitemaps)

So for most sites it's not needed.

avatar joeforjoomla
joeforjoomla - comment - 10 Jan 2017

I agree with you guys. Including a sitemap component in the Joomla core simply makes no sense.

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Status New Discussion
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Category Feature Request
avatar franz-wohlkoenig
franz-wohlkoenig - comment - 5 Feb 2017

looks like can be closed.

avatar zero-24 zero-24 - change - 5 Feb 2017
Status Discussion Closed
Closed_Date 0000-00-00 00:00:00 2017-02-05 18:55:56
Closed_By zero-24
avatar zero-24 zero-24 - close - 5 Feb 2017
avatar B3nito
B3nito - comment - 4 Oct 2019

Can I ask again for this feature is it obligation for search engines

avatar brianteeman
brianteeman - comment - 4 Oct 2019

it is not an obligation as explained above

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