Aren't they in the order that they are listed in the templateDetails.xml
file

A template creator may have placed them in specific order and this will
change that for example I might have grouped the positions in an order that
they are displayed moving down the page

• Header
• Menu
• Top
• Left
• Right
• Footer

On 12 January 2015 at 12:22, Hannes Papenberg notifications@github.com
wrote:

This PR sorts the template positions in the module manager when selecting
the position for the template by template and then by position. It also
takes into account the translated name of the position.
How to test

1. Go into the module manager, edit a module, see that the positions are not in alphabetical order.
2. Apply patch
3. See that the positions are ordered (and grouped) by template first and then in the respective template group, ordered alphabetically by position.

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Commit Summary

• Sort Template positions in drop down

File Changes

• M administrator/components/com_modules/helpers/html/modules.php https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/pull/5682/files#diff-0 (2)

Patch Links:

• https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/pull/5682.patch
• https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/pull/5682.diff

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Yes, they are displayed in the order that they are in the XML. And yes, it might be in the order that they appear in the template. I would however argue that it is a lot simpler for the user when the positions are in alphabetical order. Especially for a user that already knows which position he wants, which I would argue is the case in 90% of the cases, it's quicker to look out for the alphabetical order than the other way around. When I know I want "Right", its quicker for me to find the position under R, than to remember that it is below "heading" and "left", but above "content-top".

That would also assume that all template developers consciously order/group the positions in the XML.

I am not saying its wrong to change to alphasort. Personally I add
positions to my xml as i create them so they are ordered - maybe others
don't. Maybe it is better to have them alphasorted. I am just pointing out
that there is a legitimate use case for them not being alphasorted

On 12 January 2015 at 12:56, Hannes Papenberg notifications@github.com
wrote:

Yes, they are displayed in the order that they are in the XML. And yes, it
might be in the order that they appear in the template. I would however
argue that it is a lot simpler for the user when the positions are in
alphabetical order. Especially for a user that already knows which position
he wants, which I would argue is the case in 90% of the cases, it's quicker
to look out for the alphabetical order than the other way around. When I
know I want "Right", its quicker for me to find the position under R, than
to remember that it is below "heading" and "left", but above "content-top".

That would also assume that all template developers consciously
order/group the positions in the XML.

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@test Success.

... And no PHP warning, too ;-)

@test works!

Moving to RTC Thanks to all!